If you vote for Obama, this is what you’re voting for (Reminder #14)

By · Tuesday, November 4th, 2008 · 62 Comments »


When Hillary Clinton suspended her campaign, the Obama side was left with a giant weapon and no enemy to use it on. The giant weapon, of course, was the misogyny machine they’d built to destroy Hillary (see Reminder #13).

Meanwhile, Democratic women got busy convincing themselves that the abuse meted out to Hillary was for her alone; that it wasn’t representative of any kind of general attitude towards women, and certainly not representative of the Obama camp’s attitude towards women. Oh, heavens no. Of course not! There was just something about Hillary.

Then Sarah Palin showed up.

When McCain announced Palin as his running mate, I thought the election was over. A lot of people did. Palin is an intrinsically appealing figure: personally charismatic, accomplished, impressive in a Harry Truman kind of way, and, best of all, a feminist (albeit a conservative one). She’s got a stay-at-home husband and an outspoken commitment to gender equality, but she’s also a Christian and a conservative Republican with a small-town working-class background. How many demographics is that?

The Obama campaign saw and understood the threat. Fortunately for them, they had that giant misogyny-machine weapon lying around gathering dust. What good is a weapon if you don’t use it?

Barack Obama’s team set out to crucify Sarah Palin the same way they crucified Hillary Clinton, but more quickly and thoroughly; time was of the essence. The smears started on DailyKos — the same place where so many of the smears against Hillary had been planted — with lurid speculation on Sarah Palin’s pregnancies, her daughter’s pregnancy, the potential for incest-derived genetic mutations within the Palin family uteri, and so forth. TPM segued from “senior advisers say” hit jobs on Hillary to “senior advisers say” hit jobs on Palin. Huffington Post, the home of twits ridiculing Hillary Clinton as a vicious lying bitch who ought to be killed, now became the home of twits ridiculing Sarah Palin as a stupid cunt who ought to be raped. Meanwhile, the Obama campaign pushed a laundry list of lies about Sarah Palin’s political beliefs, crafted to make her seem crazily right-wing, to alienate potential women voters, and even to justify the intrusions into the Palin family’s private life (the lie that Sarah Palin is opposed to contraception and sex education, for example, was used to justify the grotesque obsession with Bristol Palin’s pregnancy).

Consider, for example, the rape kit smear. It’s been thoroughly debunked, of course, but the damage it did was tremendous. And that’s damage it was designed to do. The rape kit smear was pushed by the Obama campaign itself, with conference calls to reporters urging them to follow the story. It was expressly designed to alienate women voters in particular; after all, there are few issues more raw for women than sexual violence. The Obama camp’s behavior in perpetrating that smear reminds me of their similar role in the RFK smear: both were profoundly cynical, morally bankrupt attempts to exploit people’s deepest fears.

Pause for a moment and think about that; think about the supreme irony of Obama using a lie about rape, of all things, to trick women voters into believing that he, not the feminist woman he’s slandering, is their champion.

But there’s more. The Obama campaign ventriloquized the women’s groups they’d co-opted to publish a constant stream of misinformation about Sarah Palin, as in this widely-circulated email (annotated by me):

Perhaps like us, as American women, you share the fear of what Ms. Palin and her professed beliefs and proven record could lead to for ourselves and for our present or future daughters. To date, she is against sex education [false], birth control [false], the pro-choice platform [true, but more nuanced than reported], environmental protection [false], alternative energy development [false], freedom of speech [false], gun control [true], the separation of church and state [false], and polar bears [debatable].

That’s a whole lotta lies in one sentence, and the amazing thing is that they’re all so easily debunked. But then, none of the smears the Obama camp pushed against Hillary were true either. They were all easily debunked, and non-insane people kept trying to debunk them. But it didn’t matter. Truth is irrelevant. All that matters is if the mud will stick.

The “woman-to-woman” email continues:

First and foremost, Ms. Palin does not represent us. She does not demonstrate or uphold our interests as American women. It is presumed that the inclusion of a woman on the Republican ticket could win over women voters. We want to disagree, publicly.

If you agree that Palin is an irresponsible, even dangerous, choice for VP, please consider participating in this drive. Gentlemen, send this to the women you know and care for. I know it’s tough to understand the way this choice is impacting women, but I have never seen so many women so outraged, angry and distraught in my entire life. We’d like our voices heard.

If you agree, PLEASE FORWARD WIDELY! If you send this to 20 people in the next hour, you could be blessed with a country that takes your concerns seriously. Stranger things have happened.

I think Barack Obama’s next book should be called “The Audacity of Ratfucking.” Have you ever seen the beat? According to this truly audacious con job, the way for women’s voices to be heard is for them to put their trust in the man who waged a campaign of relentless slander and misogyny against the first woman to have a real shot at the presidency, the man who is now slandering even more egregiously the first woman to run on the Republican presidential ticket.

But neutralizing the power of those milestones was critical. There is room for only one history-making candidacy in Barack Obama’s world, and that’s his.

Think about it from his perspective: going into the 2008 election, Democrats had a choice between nominating the first woman or the first African-American. It was in Obama’s interest to neutralize the appeal of “the first woman president,” and to simultaneously magnify the potential resonance of his own nomination. To that end he wrapped himself in the aura of the Civil Rights movement and tried to sound like Martin Luther King; at the same time, he and his aides utterly refused to acknowledge that Hillary was anything other than a “conventional candidate” (in Obama’s own words). Nothing historic there, nosirree. Meanwhile his mud merchants were busy turning Hillary into a laughingstock, an anything-but-inspiring figure of ridicule, the kind of woman people would be ashamed to support. The kind of woman that women would be ashamed to support. Nothing to be proud of there, nosirree. Yes, of course we’d like a woman president, but not this one because she’s a vicious lying cunt.

And then he did the same thing to Sarah Palin. Palin is very different from Hillary, so a different set of sexist tropes were used. Where Hillary was a ball-busting bitch, Palin is an airhead fuck bunny. Where Hillary was every(male)body’s know-it-all nagging first wife, Palin is a beauty queen bimbo. Hillary was a vicious lying cunt, but Palin is a stupid cunt. The result is the same: a laughingstock, an anything-but-inspiring figure of ridicule, the kind of woman people would be ashamed to support. The kind of woman that women would be ashamed to support. Yes, of course we’d like a woman vice-president, but not this one because she’s a stupid cunt.

Did it work? Did he convince you? Are you ashamed to support Sarah Palin? Were you ashamed to support Hillary Clinton? Are you out and proud about voting for the history-making Barack Obama, the Lightworker, the bringer of hope and change for everyone except women, who are still lying, vicious, stupid cunts?

Because if you vote for Obama, that’s what you’re voting for.

62 Responses to “If you vote for Obama, this is what you’re voting for (Reminder #14)”

  1. kenoshaMarge says:

    I cast my first ever vote for a Republican when I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin last Friday.

    I knew I would never vote for Obama for all the reasons you listed above. I’m ashamed and saddened that so many women can do so. I’m ashamed and saddened that so many women can vote for a candidate that savaged and lied about two women. Two diverse women who are intellegent and worthy of respect as candidates.

    The Democratic Party must not be forgiven for it’s crimes against women. And that includes the women who participated in those crimes.

    The media must be held to account for it’s crimes against Democracy. A Democracy cannot stand without and honest and unbiased media. We have neither.

    Goddess help us all.

  2. myiq2xu says:

    When I was young and dumb and full of shit I voted for Ronnie Raygun.

    I have been a yellow-dog Democrat since then, but when the polls open here in California in about 2 1/2 hours I’m voting for two Republicans – John and Sarah.

  3. TheOtherDelphyne says:

    Thanks, Violet, for this wonderful series. I’ll be voting for McCain and Palin a bit later this morning.

  4. samanthasmom says:

    Sisterhood

    Thanks, Violet, for all that you do here and at the New Agenda. I need a distraction today so the grandkid and I are going to the farm to hug the alpacas.

  5. Pat Johnson says:

    Wow! A perfect analysis of what we can expect from this empty suit only more of the same. My hope is that America will wake up and see once and for all what “hope” and “change” look like. So far they do not exist outside of a campaign slogan.

    Empty Suit, empty words.

  6. Yanni Znaio says:

    I was almost tempted to buy one of those things, as it’ll end up being a collectible right up there with the Hello Kitty vibrator.

    Proudly voted McCain/Palin this morning.

    Thank you, Violet for what you do.

    Best regards,

    YZ

  7. slythwolf says:

    I just voted for Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente and I could not be prouder.

  8. britgirls says:

    Stop! You’re making me cry and I still need to be able to see to drive to the polls. I’m bookmarking this one … will read it again later.

    Off to vote for Palin now (and hopefully Hillary in 2012).

  9. Honora says:

    I am voting for McCain/ Palin and I will feel like a patriot so doing. Presidents come and presidents go, but our democracy is forever. We can not let the DNC select our nominee and disregard our votes. I will vote for the candidate and not the party from now on. The DNC can not take me for granted any longer. PUMAcrat.

  10. bluemorning says:

    The misogyny is the #1 reason why I could never support
    BO.
    Donna Brazile said to the base- stay home
    My answer- Hell NO.

    Proud to vote McPalin- defeat BO!!

    Thanks for your blog, Violet- I read it every day.

  11. madamab says:

    Oh, Violet, you have outdone yourself this morning. You have outlined the disgusting irony of women who support their own destruction with such concise fury. Brava.

    My husband and I will be voting this evening in Blue NY. I don’t know what he’ll do, but I’m voting McCain/Palin.

    If we elect Obama, the DNC and the National Party will feel justified in their electoral strategy. They will never ask for womens’ votes again, and will feel free to continue their slow erosion of womens’ reproductive rights and freedoms. They will never put another woman on a Presidential ticket.

    We cannot allow that to happen if we can prevent it.

    PUMA POWER!!!

  12. Keri says:

    Proudly voted for McKinney/Clemente this morning.

    Obots have been trashing McKinney too, calling her crazy c— and racist against Jewish people- the last all because her security is provided by the New Black Panthers, but guess who the New Black Panthers endorsed for President- Obama, and they have a link to their website and information about their organization right on Obama’s page. Not that pointing that out to Obots makes a whit of difference, they still spout the same bull. They demonized McKinney in the third way used to suppress women when the other angles aren’t easy to use- she’s crazy. No, she’s not, she’s just very liberal- more than me on some issues. I like that in a candidate.

  13. m Andrea says:

    Whem members of the “social justice” party believe it’s acceptable to hate women, they are hypocrites. When leaders of the “social justice” party do not censor their members for hating women, they too are hypocrites. When the very platform of the “social justice” party deems hatred of women an appropriate campaign tool, then the corruption runs so deep they are lost forever. Hypocrites are not trustworthy, and any vote not for McCaim is another vote for the worst hypocrites in history.

    Nadia said: If you hadn’t wanted me to vote for my vagina, then you shouldn’t have spent the last year calling me a cunt.

    NoQuarter mentioned that if someone hadn’t been mesmerized by Pampers by now, they are immune.

  14. m Andrea says:

    I previewed! “McCaiN” lol Really need to move my monitor so it’s not reflecting the glare from the window…

  15. ricky says:

    The NYTimes wants you to enter the word that most describes your state of mind on this election day. I struggled for some time, no word offered being quite what described my feelings, until I read “If you voted for Obama …” post #14.

    I entered “cuntish”.

  16. Lisa says:

    Voted for Sarah Palin and that guy she is running with today. Scoured the local ticket for any and all women I could find and voted for them too. Then I voted for all the independents to fill in the blanks.

    I have packed away the Hillary campaign buttons I bought for my children as souvenirs. They can wear them in 2012 when we campaign together for her against Sarah Palin.

    We (ALL OF US who are paying attention) aren’t going to let this misogyny happen again. PUMAs aren’t going away.

  17. Jean says:

    I think Barack Obama’s next book should be called “The Audacity of Ratfucking.”

    He really should just re-title his two books Ratfucking I and II.

    Thanks, Violet, you called it, as always.

  18. chathamheel says:

    Did she or did she not make fun of the fruit fly genetics study that had important results for autism research? During a speech on how we need to support special needs children no less.

  19. Violet says:

    Did she or did she not make fun of the fruit fly genetics study that had important results for autism research?

    No, she did not. She has never said anything about genetics research with fruit flies. She objected to federal funding (over $200,000) for French research into olive fruit flies, an earmark identified as “pork” going to a certain Congressman in California. Notice that she didn’t object to the science (which was about olive trees, not autism); just the federal funding.

    The reason you think she “made fun of the fruit fly genetics study that had important results for autism research” is because of the wholly corrupt and mendacious Obamabot media. Congratulations.

  20. chathamheel says:

    She made fun of fruit fly research in general. Nice spin.

  21. Violet says:

    No. She. Did. Not. Go read her speech. Or watch it.

  22. Violet says:

    For anyone reading, notice that chathamheel is a classic Obama troll. Give him facts, and he keeps spouting lies. Nothing but lies.

  23. Nadai says:

    Voted for Sarah Palin and that guy she is running with today. Scoured the local ticket for any and all women I could find and voted for them too.

    Exactly what I did! We had a few races where both candidates were women, and in those I voted for the more liberal one (all of those were Democrats, though I no longer take that for granted). I’ve half decided to only vote for women candidates from now on.

  24. Anna Belle says:

    I proudly cast my vote to break the glass ceiling, choosing to reward Republicans for their good choice this year. McCain/Palin it was. Then I voted for every woman on the ticket. I split the handful that were left in an effort to achieve split government. I did vote Libertarian for U.S. Congress, as I couldn’t vote for either Baron Hill or Mike Sodrel. Same shit, different day with those two.

    Thanks for these inspiring posts, Violet. I’ve read every one.

  25. slythwolf says:

    any vote not for McCaim is another vote for the worst hypocrites in history.

    I have to disagree with you there, mAndrea. Some of us recognize the existence of third parties and even vote for them.

  26. wethepeople says:

    wow, brilliant! thank you, violet.

  27. Yanni Znaio says:

    Bless you all.

    It shall be an interesting night.

    I still predict Mc/P victory by significant margins.

    Three things will combine to make this happen:

    PUMAs, values voters and coal.

    That thing 0bama said about putting a carbon tax on coal-fired generating plants that would bankrupt any company who built them probably will cost him Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia and Kentucky.

    Coal miners won’t vote themselves out of jobs.

  28. Violet says:

    Do you think the coal comment has percolated out to the coal mining voters?

  29. quixote says:

    The whole “This is what you’re voting for” series has been brilliant. Thanks, Violet. Thanks more than I can say.

    As for whats-his-name calling his books “Ratfucking” . . . Why? The last time rats corrupted whole peoples and cultures it was the late 1300s in Europe. What have rats done to you to deserve being mentioned in one breath with BO?

  30. Yanni Znaio says:

    Violet says:

    Do you think the coal comment has percolated out to the coal mining voters?

    November 4th, 2008 at 2:49 pm EST

    Maybe not.

    They are, after all, in the words of Dear Leader, bitter [redneck] clingers and the implication is that they’re too stupid to read the labels on their snuff cans.

    I really think that it has.

    Energy is on everybody’s minds these days, and well, out in the country there are four things to do: drink, make love, shoot at stuff, and go online (albeit at painfully slow baudrates), right?

    (removes tongue from cheek)

    I used to live in a place that was so quiet that when they made the closest intersection on the state highway a 4 way stop and put rumble strips in, on summer nights, I could hear cars hit them from the deck on the back of my house which was over a mile away.

    So I’m slightly acquainted with that (the 25 minute drive to the grocery store was kind of a drag when we had small children and ran out of diapers or something…)

    And, on a personal note, thank you for all the brilliant writing that you’ve done that has so eloquently illustrated the transparency of Dear Leader’s apparel.

    We may be on opposing sides in 2012, but this year, we stood together for the sake of our country.

    And for that, I salute you.

    YZ

  31. votermom says:

    Great series, Violet. I love your blog! Keep writing because we non-partisan feminists need a voices like yours.

    I waited in line this morning almost two hours to vote McCain/Palin, and also for downticket women (only found one — a libertarian!) and for a GOP guy who went door to door to shake my hand.
    After I voted I went over to the little GOP table and told them “I’m a Dem but I voted for your guy!” and they were real happy to hear that!

    PA is puma country!

  32. Marge Twain says:

    Thank you for this whole series, Violet. I cast my vote for McKinney/Clemente today and I couldn’t have felt better about it.
    My brother, who preferred Obama over Clinton because “he seems so trustworthy”, refuses to believe that Obama harbors any sexist ideas nor will he believe that he used misogyny as a campaign strategy. His evidence is that “lots of women think Obama is best for them” We have to prove him, and the collaborating women, wrong.

  33. Yanni Znaio says:

    Sorry for mangling that sentence about the rumble strips. Horrible the syntax was.

  34. soopermouse says:

    I don’t know what the fuck is going on in thr world. I made at post the Red Queen about the debunking of the rape kit smear and she deleted it and sent me an e-mail about how her blog will never support anything Republican.
    I don’t get it.I guess “yes, it’s ok to attack and smear women just because they belong to a different party” is a contagious disease. What am I supposed to make of this? If these are my friends, who ARE my enemies?What the fuck happened to the world?

  35. Yanni Znaio says:

    Soopermouse:

    Symptoms of acute Kool-Aid poisoning.

    Definitely results in brain damage, possibly fatal.

  36. Violet says:

    I made at post the Red Queen about the debunking of the rape kit smear and she deleted it and sent me an e-mail about how her blog will never support anything Republican.

    So the truth is Republican? Honesty is Republican?

  37. Violet says:

    Sorry for mangling that sentence about the rumble strips. Horrible the syntax was.

    No problem. I threw together a quick sentence diagram in Visio and managed to sort it out.

  38. jay says:

    I had an interesting experience in a grocery line this morning. A couple of guys were gushing about how historic this election was. One said “from now on, every kid, black and white, can dream of being president”. I couldn’t help myself, turned around, and said “provided that kid is a boy”.

    If looks could kill.

  39. Gayle says:

    Voted Green. I’d love to see them get 5% but I bet Nader will split that vote.

  40. Cyn says:

    I did it – I voted my first Republican ticket ever and I didn’t self-destruct. In fact, it felt good. The right thing to do. I have clean hands.

  41. Kat says:

    Violet, I keep trying to write comments and they never quite work. I don’t know what to say in the face of this kind of acceptable and mainstreamed hatred.

    In any case, I’ll just say thank you for this series. I think it’s been very important to document all this. I’ll be here tomorrow. And the day after that. And the day after that.

  42. Carmonn says:

    It made me happy to vote for the first major party ticket woman of my lifetime. I felt a little twinge about Cynthia, but barring the Misogynist Party not torpedoing HRC yet again, I’ll write her in next time.

  43. Rich says:

    “Voted Green. I’d love to see them get 5% but I bet Nader will split that vote.”

    Yeah, Nader needs to go the fuck home already. He’s had his time, it’s only fair to give others a chance, but he’s no different than Obama when it comes to self-importance.

  44. soopermouse says:

    Violet says:

    So the truth is Republican? Honesty is Republican?
    __________________________________________________

    Here’s the thing: Red Queen is a good person. I have no doubt of that whatsoever. But what is happening is scaring me. I feel like I no longer recognize the world. I’ve gone to Davy Jones’ locker and now up is down.
    Can someone please explin to me how one can say “this blog is kool aid free, OBamazoids go post elsewhere” and in the next breath do this? How you can’t say anything bad about OBama without having the resident OBama supporter shredding you apart?
    How can someone like Ginmar call Sarah Palin “Bible Spice” and not see the mysoginy? How can Shakes not even care that she is spreading lies?
    Are these people who our allies were all along? I feel intellectually homeless and alone in the cold. Because these were people I respected and cared for.

    Look, I’m not an internet noob, and I think I am pretty tough. I’ve been to war ( Yugoslavia 1998-1999), I had cancer, I’m an immigrant from an ex communist country. Shit keeps happenign to me and I always go through it and come out at the other end. But this, this fucking hurts.

    The broken trust hurts.

  45. Val says:

    We had a write-in for Ellis Co sheriff – Susan Welch-Rodriguez. I’m crossing my fingers for her, voted Palin/McCain & all the other females on the ballot…

  46. julia says:

    This is the first good news I’ve read all day! I am laughing out loud here at the internet cafe!
    Well, I voted all the women I could which led to a grand total of four. Including P/VP. That’s about how easy it is to find a woman dentist here in town : there are close to 100 men and about 4 women.

    Rich – you are so right about Nader. Besides that he has a sexist sleezeball as his senior advisor.

    I love “Palin and that guy she’s running with” ! That’s how I intend to look at things from now on.

  47. Yanni Znaio says:

    Violet says:

    Sorry for mangling that sentence about the rumble strips. Horrible the syntax was.

    No problem. I threw together a quick sentence diagram in Visio and managed to sort it out.

    November 4th, 2008 at 4:39 pm EST

    Funniest thing I’ve read all day.

    But now I seem to be channelling Yoda.

    Clearly I need a beer.

  48. Propertius says:

    I’m sitting in the United concourse in O’Hare, waiting for a flight out of ObamaLand that should depart just as the polls close. I’m anxious to be in the air and out of here before the Great Coronation Rally begins. I voted on October 20, back in Colorado. For the first time since I cast my initial ballot in 1976, I did not for the D. McCain Palin for President, Green Party for Senate and Congress. I did vote Dem for state House and Senate – I know both the candidates and I trust them. I just wanted to thank you for this series. You’ve managed to elegantly crystallize everything that has enraged me about this campaign. As I said in response to an earlier thread, I had to burn the Democratic village in order to save it.

    It’ll probably all be settled, one way or another, before I touch down this evening, but don’t any of you give up – no matter what happens this evening.

  49. Jean says:

    soopermouse,

    I don’t know what to say except that I hear you and I agree.

  50. mojave_wolf says:

    Adding my thanks to the others, Violet.

    Feeling like crap because I waited too long to make up my mind to post a link to here and elsewhere in one last ditch effort to sway any of the Obama voters who read my blog, and so of course my computer decided it had a fatal registry error Sunday night right when I was in the process of doing so.

    Voted McKinney/Clemente, as I gather you did, but damn the attacks on Palin (and even the ones on McCain–for all that they didn’t run a campaign I particularly felt good about, twas vastly better than what the dipshits now running the democratic party have done) makes me wish I could’ve voted for them, too.

    (lest anyone go on about 3rd party=wasted vote, this is Cali, my 3rd party vote is likely to have more effect than the McCain vote, as the Greens have a better chance of topping the 5% threshold than McCain does of winning this state)

    Soopermouse–what happened to the Red Queen? i haven’t had time to keep up with all the blogs I’d like to, but last I saw she was one of the sane ones and I quite liked her, as recently as a month or so ago, I thought.

  51. pacific-cali says:

    EXCELLENT article. Thank you!

    Just got back from voting for McCain/Palin – and exercised my committment to the 30% solution by voting for the woman in each race – regardless of their party.
    FEELS GREAT!

  52. m Andrea says:

    No problem. I threw together a quick sentence diagram in Visio and managed to sort it out.

    *screams* There is a program that diagrams sentences??? Because I have been noticing that it would take an English teacher to figure out what Pampers is really saying. I have caught many sentence by him which say the exact opposite of what is intended when diagramed out.

    Okay I was just looking for the gif in my file of a particular quote from his website taken a while back to illustrate my point. Couldn’t find it, so decided to try the waybackmachine. Guess what? Wayback was caching like crazy until Feb08, when all archiving stops. This alone is unusual, as you’d expect everyone to be very interested in keeping track of the constant changes to his site.

    Okay, I start clicking on some of the wayback links. Guess what? They all redirect to the current incarnation of his site. I’ve never seen a website do that before.

    Oh, and his site has already called Ohio, has MSNBC called it yet?

  53. Lisa says:

    YZ… laughing now. I thought you were channeling Yoda too.

  54. Violet says:

    mAndrea, no, Visio is just a graphics program that’s used for creating diagrams — flow charts, org charts, technical diagrams, etc. I was making a joke.

  55. m Andrea says:

    Oh the other thing. My new strategy when dealing with an Obot is to not discuss a single solitary issue or the lastest manufactured incident.

    Instead I mention the definiton of principle, and watch the obots eyes start to get shifty. Then I mention the utility of character and watch them run away.

    Says it all, really…

  56. m Andrea says:

    Oh well darn. guess I better brush up then.

  57. Yanni.Znaio says:

    Lisa says:

    YZ… laughing now. I thought you were channeling Yoda too.

    November 4th, 2008 at 8:50 pm EST
    Violet says:

    mAndrea, no, Visio is just a graphics program that’s used for creating diagrams — flow charts, org charts, technical diagrams, etc. I was making a joke.

    November 4th, 2008 at 8:56 pm EST

    Lisa, Violet:

    Thanks for the humor.

    I have the misfortune of using Visio on occasion to map out the systems we manage- it requires the use of plotter-sized sheets (A2, for example)

    I feel like falling on my sword today, and I doubt that I am the only one who feels this way.

  58. CoolAunt says:

    Gentlemen, send this to the women you know and care for. I know it’s tough to understand the way this choice is impacting women, but I have never seen so many women so outraged, angry and distraught in my entire life.

    Yeah, because we don’t talk to one another about issues that are of such grave importance to us, so much so that they cause some of us to feel distraught over them. No, instead we’re relying upon you, Teh Menz, for the information on issues that are important to us. Please, we’re outraged, angry and distraught. Tell us what to think and do. We can only rely upon one another for recipes, laundry tips, and beauty advice.

  59. Yanni Znaio says:

    CoolAunt says:

    Gentlemen, send this to the women you know and care for. I know it’s tough to understand the way this choice is impacting women, but I have never seen so many women so outraged, angry and distraught in my entire life.

    Yeah, because we don’t talk to one another about issues that are of such grave importance to us, so much so that they cause some of us to feel distraught over them. No, instead we’re relying upon you, Teh Menz, for the information on issues that are important to us. Please, we’re outraged, angry and distraught. Tell us what to think and do. We can only rely upon one another for recipes, laundry tips, and beauty advice.

    November 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm EST

    *That one* didn’t need a /sarcasm tag.

    There are few things worse on this planet than women who seem to have a preoccupation with who Susie went out with last weekend and where Jane bought her shoes.

    Except for about 95 percent of my fellow males.

    There are times when the actions of [some/most] males make me ashamed to carry a penis.

    Although I sure as hell wouldn’t leave it behind…

    :-)

    (referencing a tongue-in-cheek response to K. in another post).

    YZ

  60. Kiuku says:

    http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2.....gov-palin/

  61. Kali says:

    Kiuku, thanks for reminding me about Jane Swift. When Obama took the campaign plane to see his grandmother, I remembered there was a female politician who took a lot of flack for using the state helicopter to see her sick daughter. I had wondered at that time what the reaction would have been if she had been male. Now my suspicion has been confirmed. Compare the treatment that Jane Swift got with the media’s fawning treatment of Obama.

  62. donna darko says:

    Great analysis.

    I missed this one two weeks ago.