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August 12th, 2008

Patriarchy to world-class female athletes: okay, you can compete, but you have to wear porn outfits


Women’s track uniforms; men’s track uniform.


Men’s beach volleyball uniforms; women’s beach volleyball…uniforms.

Those are from a photo essay at Hoyden About Town:

Women still the sex class in international elite sports

Also check this one out from a couple of years ago, showing the trend in pornification:

If bare midriffs and short-shorts really made athletes run faster

As a commenter astutely notes, “These uniforms are going to make it very hard to focus on the game, because many players are going to be distracted by thoughts of how they look. And to think, while the men are preparing for their game by stretching, going over their techniques, etc., the women are waxing their bikini lines!”

Exactly. I think that could serve as a pretty damn good working definition of how patriarchy operates: men get to do stuff, women get to worry about their bikini lines.

I recall a study that showed how women’s ability to think clearly and to focus their minds drops dramatically when they’re wearing revealing clothes. The more revealing the clothes, the dumber they get. Test scores plummet, ability to answer questions nose-dives. That’s because they’re so goddamn anxious about how they look and whether their bits are hanging out.

I can attest to that myself; whenever I wore short-shorts or some other such foolishness as a young Sock, I was so flustered I could hardly concentrate. All I could think about was how much of me was showing.

Maybe it’s a good thing I’m not watching the Olympics. I’m insanely swamped with Stuff That Must Be Done, so no Games for me. I did, however, watch the Opening Ceremony, and as soon as I have a chance I shall grace you all with my 10,000 word essay on the subject.

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30 Responses to “Patriarchy to world-class female athletes: okay, you can compete, but you have to wear porn outfits”

  1. orlando says:

    Also in the Hoyden comments, tigtog pointed out that you can tell from their tan lines that the women on the athletics team don’t wear outfits like these to train in. It’s clearly just for when they’re being put on show. It’s such an insult to their abilities.

  2. ruth says:

    I recall a fuss about the women’s beach volley ball uniform in Australia when it first shrank to the illustrated size - the sponsors had concerns, not about the pornification, but about the lack of anywhere to emblazon their logos.

  3. qaz says:

    Did you see this?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/11/georgebush.olympics2008

  4. DarthVelma says:

    Another big part of the suck in all this is that the male beach volleyball players get to put on MORE clothes for the olympics. On tour they generally play shirtless. Which almost evens out the eye candy aspect of the sport. But not for the olympics.

    I have to say, it was fun last night to watch the one sport where the women seem to have it easier in terms of the uniforms. I always get a chuckle watching the male gymnasts have to strip halfway down to change between events right there on the floor of the gym.

  5. Level Best says:

    OK,I haven’t watched the Olympics in about 20 years or so, so these pictures REALLY bothered me. This is insulting and counterproductive to the women’s performance. I would bet lots of them just consider this an onerous price they have to pay in order to be in the competitions. I really don’t want to think they like the outfits!

  6. ea says:

    Except for swimming and diving.

    Actually I think it depends more on the particular sport. Not to say there aren’t fashion and marketing elements involved. In the 70s male athletes wore short shorts in basketball and tennis. An early women’s basketball league had the women in clingy-tight, undie-like uniforms. Complaints from all quarters ended that bad idea. Track and field outfits for men have gone through a lot of changes over the years, as they have for the women. One of the big things in track is to carry less weight–ditch the clothes if you don’t need them. It is very common to train in heavier clothes and shoes than those in which you race. Has been for decades.

  7. MountainSage says:

    I haven’t been watching much of the Olympics so I was unaware of this phenomena. Thanks for the post.

    Mountain Sage

  8. Ann Bartow says:

    Had the very same reaction:

    http://feministlawprofs.law.sc.edu/?p=3884

  9. lauredhel says:

    An early women’s basketball league had the women in clingy-tight, undie-like uniforms. Complaints from all quarters ended that bad idea.

    The Australian Opals basketball team plays in skin-tight short rompers, so I wouldn’t say the idea has ended altogether.

    I think one of the reasons I quite enjoy watching the swimming, diving, equestrian, cycling, judo and soccer is that the women aren’t pornified in the same way.

    It is very common to train in heavier clothes and shoes than those in which you race.

    And yet, the men aren’t running in budgie-smugglers.

  10. K.A. says:

    I’m so glad someone covered this! It’s been pissing me off royally. The other thing is, when the men’s volleyball team wins and leaves the court, a bevy of women in matching bathing suits come running out in a line to “entertain.” Think the male variety do that after the women leave the court? And the Chinese have made-up women in fancy genderoppression gear acting like hostesses/servants, in everything from presenting medals to holding signs as the athletes are introduced. Nary a male in sight.

    I just saw another story about the little girl who sang in the opening ceremonies being picked for her cuteness and lip synching for the actual little girl who had the talented voice but “wasn’t cute enough” to be shown! Everything that China attempts to do to come off with a better image backfires wildly. What utter stupidity.

  11. slythwolf says:

    You want to know something depressing? The girls’ volleyball team at my high school didn’t have much bigger uniforms. We’re talking about fricken 15-year-olds in a school gym, on display in basically their underwear before each other’s 40+-year-old dads.

  12. ea says:

    Hola lauredhel,

    I’m not sure what budgie-smugglers are, but male track athletes in years past have indeed competed in a variety of uniforms, including little more than a jock-strap over their genitals and those little flimsy shorty-shorts and singlets. Somes years there have been the Spandex unis that left nothing to the imagination. Sometimes the longer shorts are preferred to keep the thighs warm.

    I remember those Aussie uniforms you mention from years past (¿still in use?). Personally, I don’t like them.

    I do not want to discount that fact that in the current era of corporate sponsorship and flaps over which logo an athlete will wear, there are executives who decide that sex appeal sells, and assume, rightly or wrongly, that female skin is sexually appealing. Just remember, though, what Brandi Chastain said (paraphrasing), “I worked hard for this body, and I want to show it off!”

    Paz,

  13. simply wondered says:

    i agree with every word except for the bit about the female athletes getting distracted by worrying about waxing their bikini line. [and i know that wasn't an attempt to belittle them] oh no! whatever clothes you stick the poor buggers in, they are a model of single-minded dedication and quite scary in their pursuit of excellence. and that, i think, outweighs the silly clothes in terms of the message that you can work hard and achieve what you want - and i hope isn’t limited to the pursuit of sporting excellence. so much so that my first thought as a presumably averagely woman-oppressing male is: ‘what a body - wish mine was like that’. it really is - however stupid the outfits, i marvel at the bodies of both sets of athletes as i did at the ballet dancers (no vi that’s not a plea for pictures) i worked with.

    but, yes, the clothes are as stupid and antedeluvian as the habit of referring to the athletes as ‘men’ and ‘girls’. maybe lydia of the purple had the right idea on dress.

    i think (tho i watch very little of it) that triathlon may see men and women in equally skimpy kit…

    and ‘budgie-smugglers’ - round of applause! - made my day

  14. sister of ye says:

    We could solve the controversy and have them all perform nude, as in the original Olympic games. Boy, would that shoot the ratings up. And make the “family values” people froth at the mouth in public - befor they scurried home to play back their TIVO.

    I agree with you and everyone else above. But I see one side point that might prove a slight silver lining. Those skimpy/skintight uniforms reveal that those women are ripped - including the petite gymnasts. Maybe, just maybe, it can help counteract the idea that the “ideal woman” is an anorexic waif who looks too frail to pick up a Sunday edition of the NYT.

    Life, lemons and lemonade. Or maybe whiskey sours.

  15. Adam says:

    Of course, this isn’t limited to the olympics. It’s true for, say, high school volleyball teams as well. Of course, we do have parity in sports like swimming or cycling or downhill skiing, where what you wear actually does matter and form follows function.

    It was pretty funny how blatantly the cameramen played “find the hottie” with every delegation in the parade of nations. You would have thought they would be a little more subtle… well, maybe not.

    Interesting cultural note: when women strip down clothing, they are sexualized by men, but when men wear less clothing than than the accepted norm, they are labeled as gay. Which, when you think about it, is also about being sexualized by men. Blah blah male gaze blah blah.

  16. Gayle says:

    Well I obviously haven’t been paying attention. I knew about the teeny-tiny beach volleyball outfits and justified them in my own head by thinking: Oh well, they are supposed to do this at a beach.

    I had no idea the trend had spread to other sports, track and field, etc.

    Ugh. Who creates these get ups, anyway? Who approves them? They don’t look at all comfortable.

  17. NotYoursweetie says:

    Are you saying the Olympics are ongoing? Now?
    Until reading this, i totally missed that fact.

  18. GRL says:

    YUP…I noticed this, too!!! The volleyball players all have their asses hanging out…men, nicely covered up…

    kenoshMarge has a new post up…it’s against the media( but it sounds like the DNC, too.) You can bet that NBC and all the media that cover these sports, demand women in fewer clothes than the men.

    The “Meaning” of America
    http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/the-meaning-of-america/

    “I do not want to play nice with bigots, liars and ignoramuses. I can get mean, nasty, insulting when confronted with idiocy. Mostly, why bother? I have better things to do with my time.”

    Mostly about the media, but the above quote seems to apply to the DNC as well…
    A new one from kenoshaMarge….

  19. Annie Oakley says:

    Thanks for mentioning the porn aspect of this. The uniforms look uncomfortable and ugly.

  20. Lea says:

    I agree, but I would like to know… where does it come from? Is it the fashion industry? Who is driving this gender agenda and how can they be educated? It is ridiculous for sure.

    Who is patriarchy? In this instance? That sounds like a dumb question, but I think by breaking it down into smaller pieces it becomes easier to understand and to overcome eventually.

  21. Lynn H. says:

    This old lady watched the women’s beach volleyball and was anxiously awaiting the men’s only to be disappointed at their “costumes.” Pity. Seriously, the contrast is ridiculous, but are the women athletes speaking up or are they silenced? Who makes the decisions? Write your distaste to the US Olympic committee. I will do so, but my speaking out is discounted because I am old–ageism exists!

  22. vbonnaire says:

    I watched only a little, the opening was umm… I’ll wait to read your thoughts V.
    It’s a sad day when girls are going to be judged by who is the “hottest” and the male media have a field day. Violet Blue over at SFGate had a piece up — she’s pretty savvy for the 3rd wave–yikes!

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/a/2008/07/31/violetblue.DTL

  23. julia says:

    I love you Violet!

    I wanted to scream when I saw the US women’s track and field team in our newspaper during the Olympic trials last month. When the women track runners would embrace each other in congratulations, they had nowhere to put their hands (everywhere is skin).
    Over the years I’ve seen women’s running uniforms go from loose running shorts to bikini underpants. I’ve seen very few athletes wear something else, and I am sure there is pressure to go along with the group. A different uniform probably costs more, has to be special ordered.

    I remeber seeing Uta Pippig (Germany) wearing regular running shorts in the marathon, but she was the only one.

    Tell me this isn’t about men getting hard when they watch the Games.

  24. julia says:

    On the last day of the trials they had a ‘fashiopn show’ with all of the athletes wearing different uniforms. One of the track stars had on bikini bottoms, a sports bra and long gloves.

  25. K.A. says:

    This isn’t about the uniforms, but I wanted to vent that I’m watching women’s beach volleyball right now, and the male commentator said about one of the players’ mild, run-of-the-mill displays of excitement: “She’s dramatic. She’s emotional.”

    She pumped her fist (well, didn’t even really pump it) and looked visibly relieved because it was a close call. No exaggeration.

    “She’s dramatic! She’s emotional!”

    Word for word.

  26. RWR says:

    Women’s sports have a hard enough time staying afloat. Without the endorsements and prize money I doubt this would be a viable sport, and only countries with state sponsored teams would have a chance. Without the outfits, I don’t think the money would flow. Heck, without those outfits in Beach Volleyball it would never have reached the level that we saw it on TV.

    Yeah, it’s kind of annoying, but so are a lot of things, and this one isn’t going to change without a lot worse repercussions.

  27. julia says:

    That’s the problem right there, RWR: we don’t take women’s anything seriously, unless it’s showing their bodies.

    The point here is, are we going to give in and say ‘well that’s all you can expect. OK women, take off your clothes!’, or have you had it with the dehumanizing of women in sports?

    In Western society, clothing = dignity. Look at women’s fashions, made and marketed by men, and you can see how much dignity we are given.

    Almost none.

  28. J says:

    I recall reading or hearing something about expectations - that the simple act of reminding groups of students about negative cultural stereotypes decreases performance.

    I wish I could remember where I read it. The essence of it was: get bunches of students and test them on math. The girls who hear a seemingly innocent comment linking “female” with “math” test lower than if there had been no comment reminding them that everyone knows girls suck at math.

    I would bet the uniforms act in a similar way. It’s like putting on their costume is a reminder that they’re not serious athletes, like the men are.

    In any case, it’s trivializing and worth complaining about.Especially if it’s done at the grade school levels.

  29. CoolAunt says:

    This isn’t about the uniforms, but I wanted to vent that I’m watching women’s beach volleyball right now, and the male commentator said about one of the players’ mild, run-of-the-mill displays of excitement: “She’s dramatic. She’s emotional.”

    She pumped her fist (well, didn’t even really pump it) and looked visibly relieved because it was a close call. No exaggeration.

    “She’s dramatic! She’s emotional!”

    Word for word.

    I was watching women’s court volleyball the other night, Cuba vs. US. The Cuban team kept bombing on their serves. The commentator made a remark that their serves were cold and then followed it with, “Frigid. So frigid.” I just can’t imagine “frigid” being used to describe the performance of a male athlete, the word is just so associated with women who view themselves as more than fuckholes.

  30. RWR says:

    “The point here is, are we going to give in and say ‘well that’s all you can expect. ”

    Julia, I’m afraid for me the answer is yes. I spent my youth fighting the un-winnable battle. My decision later in life was to take a look at the reality of human psychology, and the limits of human adaptability, and to work within those limits, while admittedly pushing them as far as they’ll stretch.

    Do I see a culture out there where, en mass, women’s sports are taken seriously while they are clothed head to toe? Nope…not with out a heck of a lot of government media manipulation. That’s a trade I’m not going to make.

    Are we all enjoying the eventing finals at the Olympics? Archery? See lots of scholarships popping up in those areas? Big endorsements? You just can’t legislate some things. While I doubt putting women in burkas particularly hurts, I’m equally convinced it doesn’t help. All the rest is just drawing lines.

    And is every athlete unhappy about the uniforms? No. And did many in sports where they could chose chose the same? Yes.

    So yeah, I have an opinion, but it’s not that clear cut and this one is a losing battle. I’d rather spend my time keeping the boys club from running the democratic party and ensure women athletes get the scholarships they need to compete — even in those skimpy outfits.

    I see the Obama victory as driven in large part by people who didn’t understand compromise and slammed Hillary for her willingness to engage in compromise. When Obama did the same they started to learn some hard lessons on give and take. Skimpy uniforms — if that’s what it takes, the sport has made it’s choice. Maybe wrong, maybe right. But worth outrage? I don’t think so.

    It all reminds me of the mini-skirt discussion. Is it a sign of power (as seen in the 60s) or a sign of sexual exploitation (as seen in the 80s)? Damned if I know. I doubt there’s a simple answer or even a meaningful one. Would the AAGPBL have succeeded in long pants? Personally I doubt it. Was it worth it?

    I don’t know what the answers are. I don’t believe there’s one right answer for how culture’s should run. I do believe there are some better than others, and some catastophes. But do I think women’s volleyball uniforms fit any of these categories? No.

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