The Democrats really, REALLY don’t deserve our votes

By Violet Socks · Monday, July 21st, 2008 ·

Please take a moment to review the imaginary scenario I constructed in this post from May 7: Why I will not vote for Obama even if he’s the nominee — and why you shouldn’t either.

(By the way, when I wrote that I hadn’t heard about Obama using “99 Problems (But A Bitch Ain’t One)” as his Iowa victory song. If I’d known that, in my little reverse-reality story I would have had Hillary striding into her New Hampshire victory party to the strains of “Knock A N—-r Down.”)

Now for the rest of the story:

Our reverse-reality scenario continues with Obama winning the popular vote in the primaries, only to have party officials manipulate the delegate count to ensure that Hillary clinches the nomination — even to the point of assigning some of Obama’s delegates to Hillary for primaries in which she didn’t compete. In behind-the-scenes maneuvers, as Obama is wrapping up his final primary victory in Puerto Rico, the DNC forces him to suspend his campaign and endorse Hillary.

Hillary, for her part, plunges into the role of presumptive nominee with confidence. She abandons any pretense of being a progressive (or even much of a Democrat), espousing right-wing Republican policies on everything from domestic surveilliance to the (non)-separation of church and state. She also drops her support — never more than lukewarm — for full voting rights for African-Amercians, arguing instead that they should have to pass stringent psychological tests and consult with their families and pastors before making important decisions like who to vote for. When members of the Congressional Black Caucus urge her to reach out to African-American supporters of Obama, she sneers that they need to “get over it” themselves, and that if they’d just think for a moment they’d realize it’s for their own good.

Hillary’s occasional attempts to downplay racism go awry. She makes an awkward speech praising Obama for proving that black men can perform every bit as well as white girls. At one of her fundraisers a comedian regales the crowd with “n—-r” jokes; Hillary starts to chide him gently, but then smiles and says, “I’m just messin’ with you!”

In July, a high-ranking DNC official issues an astonishingly condescending statement to African-American Democrats:

I must confess a bit of fatigue and irritation with people who continue to carp, complain, and criticize the results of the primary and lay down conditions for their support. The Los Angeles Lakers didn’t establish conditions to recognize the Boston Celtics as NBA Champions; Roger Federer did not demand concessions before recognizing that Rafael Nadal defeated him at Wimbledon.

It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion. It’s time to put the primaries behind us. It’s time to support Hillary Clinton without conditions or demands.

The underlying message there, of course, is that African-Americans must choose between being a Democrat and standing up for their own rights and dignities. Previously the two things had been compatible; now, it seems, they are mutually exclusive. It’s one or the other.

How strange that the DNC thinks African-Americans will choose the party over themselves.


P.S. FrenchDoc discovered the following comment in the thread at TPM, and I feel compelled to direct your attention to it:

At the end of WWII, all the French whores who serviced the Germans were rounded up. Their heads were shaved, and they were tarred and feathered. At the end of a war, the victorious side settles its debts. If you helped, you get a reward. If you did not help, you are in serious trouble.

That’s really quite mild in terms of the usual Obamabot misogyny, but what’s interesting is the blatant desire for violent revenge. It wasn’t enough to destroy Hillary; they’re still itching to punish her supporters. This is bone-deep hatred of women.

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22 Responses to “The Democrats really, REALLY don’t deserve our votes”

  1. Happenstance says:

    Oh, hey, it’s all good.

    When the fauxgressives (whom I’d like to start calling “aggrofauxgressives” but it begins to lose meaning) are bawling their heads off later (either because The Messiah lost the election, or The Messiah betrayed them by not actually fitting the image of The Messiah they projected onto him), we can use all this to cave their skulls in and rid the process of their feculent taint.

    …Er, figuratively speaking, of course.

    Because it ain’t just the victorious side that settles its debts afterwards.

  2. Pippa says:

    Jesus wept. I just spent ten minutes reading through the comment thread at TPM. It’s disgusting. I shall ruminate on this today. I don’t know where to put my rage. Again.

  3. Gayle says:

    “It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.”

    Wow. Are we electing a President or a Dictator?

    I’ll never vote for anyone without placing conditions and demands on him/her. Ever.

    Pippa: Obama’s supporters go out of their way to offend and repulse as many people as possible. Then they wonder why their candidate can’t seem to pull ahead in the polls.

  4. Perry Logan says:

    So much for any claim that progressives are smart.

  5. Write says:

    Yes, I will write-in Hillary no matter what the ballot will look like on the Election day. Please go on, Hillary!

  6. apostate says:

    Wow, that comment. I don’t know why I continue to find every such evidence of male hatred for women, so fucking unbelievable. But I do.

    It just boggles the mind.

  7. GRL says:

    Hillary Clinton’s 2012 Domain Buy: A “Flow Chart” of Scenarios That Cross the Mind (With BIG UPDATE re: PUMA/HRC DEBT)

    http://tinyurl.com/6kn2bc

    Seems that PUMA has paid off HRC’s debt..another scenario????

  8. BettyBoondoggle says:

    “I don’t know why I continue to find every such evidence of male hatred for women, so fucking unbelievable. But I do.”

    Right there with you. To echo something Melissa at Shakesville said*: How these people can call themselves progressives or liberals when they allow such misogyny to flow unchecked is beyond me.

    *I’ve changed my mind about my original thought about why this happens.

  9. Gayle says:

    “Seems that PUMA has paid off HRC’s debt.”

    I just got a new solicitation from her in the mail today so I’m assuming it’s not paid off yet.

  10. ginmar says:

    Because there’s people and then there’s women. Duh.

  11. Puget Sound Island Girl says:

    I have a real problem with that Jay-Z song being played after Iowa. I am sure someone has it on video—-I can only hope that it gets out soon. I will take later, but soon would be much, much better.

    By the way, the Obamabots are pod people—I just know it! And they are the mean and nasty type!!!

  12. Natasha says:

    Women’s human right activists [those who Do confront misogyny and Islamist misogyny]

    need to be aware of this, just got word of it, it was posted on Jihad Watch, WAMI is passing it forward. If you are aware of the situation in Europe, this is just another really bad sign, expect even more barriers in standing up for women living under Islamic laws…

    Obama to hire a “Muslim liaison,” who insists that “American women need to understand that what is best for them is not necessarily what is best for Muslim women”

    Since American women consider freedom, equality, and independence to be “best for them,” does that mean Muslim women don’t, or rather, wouldn’t, if given the chance? “Obama campaign hires Muslim liaison,” from Politico, July 21:

    Obama’s campaign has created a Muslim liaison, according to two sources familiar with the move.

    The sources said the job was likely to be filled by Haim Nawas, a Jordanian-American who filled a similar role for the campaign of General Wesley Clark in 2004.

    The job is complicated by the fact that Obama has been forced repeatedly to deny that he is Muslim, a situation that grates on some Muslim-Americans.

    Nawas wrote in 2005 that the Bush Administration should take a more nuanced approach to public diplomacy directed at Muslim women.

    “We need to recognise that the social structure in the Muslim world is very different from America’s,” she wrote. “American women need to understand that what is best for them is not necessarily what is best for Muslim women. Advocacy of women’s rights in the Muslim world must show sensitivity to local political realities.”

    Posted by Raymond

  13. octogalore says:

    Yup to women vs people. Also, because they’re secure in the knowledge (or think they are) that however bad they beat us up, it’s better than those guys over there on the right treat us, so we’ll have to not only take it but like it. Fuck that.

    Because of the family structure, women have more dependence on men than is true in the race parallel. So there is more ability to take advantage and incentive to allow this to happen. Fuck that too.

  14. Tabby Lavalamp says:

    Oh dear sweet Cthulhu. What amazes me is how many of Obama’s supporters think he’s still going to unite your country when he can’t even unite his own party. Of course, the fact that they think he can unite liberals and conservatives without complete capitulation to the right wing shows they haven’t been paying attention.

  15. sister of ye says:

    I haven’t made the round of all the blogs I still read, but has anyone else noted the delicious irony that Obama’s 10 country/8 day trip exactly matches what he denigrated Clinton’s First Lady experience as being? You know, take tea, see a factory, talk with a few select locals, and not stay long enough to get a handle on the real situation.

    Just another example of Obama being exactly what he falsely accused Clinton of being.

  16. MountainSage says:

    This is off topic and I apologize, but has anyone considered that Obama voted yes on telecom immunity and AT&T is sponsoring the Democratic Convention? Isn’t that like a conflict of interest?

    “It’s time to support Barack Obama without conditions or demands.”

    And if we don’t, what are they going to do? Kick us out of the party? Ooops, too late, must of us left the party.

    Mountain Sage

  17. Male Hillary Supporter says:

    What really sucks about that comment is that the poster repeated it every 40 or 50 lines. It was on there at least three times before I got sick of reading that thread.

    @ sister
    That’s all Nobama has got: Other peoples’ ideas. He hasn’t had an original thought since he tunred 18 (if he actually had one before then) even his candidacy is someone else’s idea (Kennedy/Kerry/Soros/Dean wing of the DNC)

  18. kenoshaMarge says:

    The irony of those that keep insisting that if we don’t support Obama and McCain wins then we will be responsible for a loss of women’s rights.

    All this while fauxgressives are posting about French whores. The Whores, male and female are the Democratic Leadership and the DNC. People that vote their conscience and vote based in what they perceive to be best for them, their family and their country are not whores, you fool, they’re patriots.

    We tried to explain patriotism to the idiot Bushbots who placed their adoration of him over their love of country. Must we now explain it all over again to Obamacrats? Some truths are never learned by some people. And some cult-people are just to dumb to learn.

  19. thebewilderness says:

    Do you recall the Lincoln quote about the highwayman demanding that you stand and deliver or he will be forced to kill you and then you will be a murderer? Lincoln would have liked Orwell, I think.
    We must obey or we will be punished and it will be our own fault for disobeying. They sound more and more like abusive authoritarian asshats every day.

  20. betsyfromtexas says:

    We women ‘of a certain age’ will NEVER vote for that asshat! My feminist ire hasn’t been raised to this level since I was in high school, wearing my ERA bracelet, as I waited and waited…Fuck the Democratic Party! I’ll vote the third party in November.

  21. anna shane says:

    It’s always so much more obvious when you do the reverse. I remember a conversation with my businessman dad more years ago than some can count. I was working as a secretary and i was angry that some higher up felt he could plunk a dime on my desk and ask me to fetch his coffee with sugar and cream. My dear old dad was nonplussed, but when I reversed it, if the president of the company slapped a dime on his desk, he got it.

    It’s hard to get people so passionate about ignorance to think, and your essay would likely work, if they would read it all the way through. Unfortunately the many young men who vilify Hillary and ‘just know’ older white women are racist don’t need to read anything to know just what it means, and to spew hate speech back. Pretty depressing.

  22. Greenconsciousness says:

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    RE: JOY BEHAR ON THE VIEW TODAY

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    IS NOT FUNNY.

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