What kind of food did you eat at home growing up?
In the Thanksgiving thread we’ve been talking a little about the character of American cuisine, and one thing I often think of when this topic arises is that American restaurant food is really a separate cuisine itself, apart from the regional varieties of home cooking. I suppose to some extent that’s true in all countries — you can’t get that good ol’ home cookin’ in a restaurant — but it’s striking to me that most of the food I ate growing up is unavailable in restaurants, at least in the form I knew it. The main exceptions are steaks (easy) and holiday turkey menus (which are generally done poorly by commercial outfits).
Since I’m still in too much of a post-prandial daze to write a real post, I thought instead I’d investigate this cuisine issue by asking you all what kind of food you ate growing up. And what part of the country (or world, if you’re outside ‘murka) you’re from.
I’ll start.
My parents are Southerners, so although I grew up all over the country and even outside the States, our home cooking was mostly Southern. I’m in my forties, so when I was growing up there was nowhere near the amount of prepared and packaged food there is today. My parents cooked. A lot.
Here are some typical menus I remember from childhood:
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Fried chicken (pan-fried style, definitely not the battered deep-fried stuff favored by benighted lowlanders)
Mashed potatoes Potato salad (yellow)
Green beans
Rolls
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Country style steak (this is pan-fried cube steak, prepared in a similar fashion to the chicken above)
Rice or Mashed potatoes
Gravy
Fried okra
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Flounder filets, fried (pan-fried, not deep-fried…do I need to keep explaining this?)
English peas
Carrots
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Fried pork chops (pan-fried, no flour coating at all)
Turnip greens
Black-eyed peas
Cornbread
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Spanish pork chops (simmered with sliced bell pepper in a tomato sauce — not sure why Southerners thought this was Spanish)
Rice
Turnip greens
Cornbread
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Meatloaf
Lima beans
Mashed potatoes
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Spaghetti with tomato-meat sauce (long-simmered, very good, vastly superior to any you’ll eat in a restaurant)
Sourdough rolls
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Salmon stew (milk-based)
Saltine crackers
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Swanson TV dinners — turkey and dressing (the only kind of TV dinner back then I think)
145 Responses to “What kind of food did you eat at home growing up?”
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Infidel says:
Kraft Mac&Cheese
Fish Sticks
Mock Chicken Legs on a stick
Artichokes
Mayonaise
Eggs
Toast
Ham w/bone cloves, &glaze
Hamburger, hot dogs, spagghetti&meatballs, pork&beans.
ChickenPotPies, TurkeyPotPies, TunaPotPies, BeefPotPies
All kinds of Campbells soups esp.Tomato or ChickenNoodle
GrilledCheeseSandwhiches, GrilledPeanutButter&JellySandwhiches
Steak, MashedPotatos, Chicken&Stuffing,
Frozen Pizza(Johns), chicken curry, Stroganof with spaetzel, Yorkshire puddings, beef roast, pork roast, corned beef, corn bread, corn on the cob, corn, beans, peas, carrots, celery, leaf lettuce, head lettuce, tomatoes, cherries, apples, bannannas, oranges, grapefruit, green grapes, ice cream, pudding,Then the older siblings moved out and my Mom got really crazy:
Musaka, 100clove garlic chicken, boneless chicken(ala JuliaChilde), stuff with eggplant, cold potato soup(vichey schwaaahhh), Guspatcho soup, wild unpredictable stir fries, Breads of every description, Cheeses with names you couldn’t pronounce, fruits that looked like out of StarTrek, vegetables I’d never heard of, a varied diet, Indian food, Belize food, Chinese food, Mexican food, Brazilian food, on and on, she was a genius when it came to putting food on the table.November 24th, 2006 at 3:15 pm EST -
Paul Tergeist says:
I never had salmon stew. My mom made beef stew. And pot roast. Other than that, you could have been raised in San Antonio.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Damn you Fidel, wait your turn! Now my post is out of order. I ate like Violet. If I had been fed the crap you got I would have been scarred for life.
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Infidel says:
…and polish sausage, sausage patties, BaconLettuce&Tomato sandwhiches, spam, shit on a shingle(chipped beef on toast), sloppy joes, tuna cassarole, bratwurst, pork chops, minute steaks, stuffed peppers, cinnamin toast, honey toast, tea, milk, chocolate milk, asparagus, broccolli, tacos, burritos, some kind of Mexican pie with layers and layers of ground beef,cheese,refried beans,tomatos,and chili peppers, chile, chile rejano, boiled potatos, bubble&squeek, leeks, tamales, green bean cassarole with Durkee onions, RedBeans&Rice, OldRottenPotatos(AuGratinPotatos),…. Sorry Paul I get carried away.
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Violet says:
And pot roast.
My grandmother made a mean pot roast — cooked until it was falling apart, like the green beans that had also been cooked to within an inch of their life. Al dente? What’s that?
There was more stuff my parents cooked, particularly my Dad. One of his specialties was french fries (pan fried, of course) — the best french fries I’ve ever had in my life. And he also baked breads.
Infidel, I don’t believe you ate Yorkshire pudding growing up. That is positively unAmerican.
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Infidel says:
The joke was that the grease would spill out all over the oven and fill the house with smoke, the smoke alarm would go off, all the windows would be thrown wide, usually Thanksgiving or Christmas, and the chill air would waft in telling everyone dinner was ready.(tears)
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Violet says:
Here’s a question: What do English people call English peas?
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Paul Tergeist says:
I had SOS but it was made out of ground beef, not last week’s pot roast. I loved it. We had pancakes once in awhile, oatmeal with butter, cinnamon toast, BLTs. Warm Dr.Pepper. Popcorn balls.
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Paul Tergeist says:
7: English peas.
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Violet says:
When I was very little and we lived in Newfoundland, my mother would cook us oatmeal for breakfast. I remember making valleys and hills with my oatmeal and creating lakes of melted butter and milk.
Throughout my growing-up years my Dad would cook a big breakfast on the weekend if he felt like it — or on snow days if we were all suddenly at home. Usually biscuits and pan gravy and eggs, but sometimes pancakes. Mom and Dad would also fix for supper BLTs sometimes, hamburgers (with the famous french fries), barbecued chicken, etc.
Sometimes as an impromptu dessert, my mother would make cinnamon toast. She would spread butter on slices of bread, then sugar them down and sprinkle them with cinnamon. And broil for a few minutes. My brother and I were in heaven.
Generally speaking, Mom and Dad were not much into baking desserts when I was growing up, except for the holidays, when Dad would make pumpkin pie and oatmeal cake (both out of this world). The rest of the year Mom stuck to simple things like brownies and chocolate pudding for us kids. It wasn’t until I was old enough to cook that we started having baked desserts on a regular basis. From the time I was 13 or so I was experimenting with pies, cobblers, cakes, cookies, complicated French pastries, etc.
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Infidel says:
Violet
do they call them peas?Chick peas are garbanzo beans
Pidgeon peas are ganduleOh man! beef stew, corn meal mush w/syrup, oatmeal, cream of wheat, rice/corn/wheat chex, cheerios, rice crispies, shredded wheat, waffles, eggo waffles, pop tarts, donuts, wax beans, lamb, corn flakes, squash, pumpkin pie, pecan pie, angle food cake, cookies, pears, peaches, AMERICAN FOOD, pepper steak, ribs, chicken livers, beef liver & onions, liver pate’, mushrooms, LaChoy Chow Mein, Little pillow shaped egg rolls, dry egg noodles, hard boiled eggs, egg salad sandwhiches, Pizza Rolls, Pizza Boats, crescent rolls, bread sticks, ravioli,…
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Paul Tergeist says:
I’m feeling sorry for myself. I looked in the fridge and found some T-day leftovers from my roomie. A couple of lobster tails, king crab, mashed potatoes, turkey dressing.
But no dark meat and no gravy! So I diced the lobster and crab into an omelet. Luckily there were some fresh tomatoes on the vine and a watermelon was ready to pick. The chickens next door gave up some eggs. Breakfast is served.
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Violet says:
Pecan pie! How could I forget? Pecan pie! Those were my Dad’s three holiday specialty desserts: pumpkin pie, pecan pie, and oatmeal cake.
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Paul Tergeist says:
PECAN PIE! From the soft-shell pecan tree in the back yard. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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will says:
I had delicious chocolate chip pecan pie, apple pie and pumpkin pie.
It was my first pumpkin pie, but it turned out fine.
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Burrow says:
Wow I grew up on lots of Tuna Cassarole, meatloaf, and mac & cheese. The veggies varied, I must have been the only kid who loved my brussel sprouts. It was pretty hard when I became a vegetarian at age 12.
One thing my parents did differently was cook our oatmeal or malt o’meal in milk. It’s so rich and creamy, there’s no need to add butter and brown sugar. (Though now I use soy milk in my oatmeal.)
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Infidel says:
Violet, thanks, you made my millenium!
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richard cherry says:
i can’t believe you lot are still alive!!! kill them animals and fry stuff!
9 paul is wrong!!!! (no triumphalism there) this english person does not call them ‘english peas’ and have never heard the term. what are they? if they are just green peas we call them peas. i think by definition almost any culinary term containing the name of a country is not from that country. go on; find seventy five examples to prove me wrong.
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Pony says:
So I’m thinking the American Thanksgiving made you nostalgic about how you ate growing up. In my formative years, far northern Canada:
bear
moose, deer
geese, grouse, ducks
pickerel, lake trout, jackfish
Arctic Char
rabbits (hare actually)
what we would call today, naturally raised pork, beef, sent north to us by family from the farm
ditto turkeys, geese, ducks and chickens (with the feet and heads, of course
ditto huge cloth bags of root vegetables, sent north, first by rail, and/or truck, sled, barge, ice breaker, ship, bush plane depending if we lived inland, a bit more south, or on the coast (that’s that Arctic coast baby!)
wild berries (always! de rigeur), wild mushrooms, some other wild edibles used for teas
dried meats, pemmican, and fish, for when out hunting
powdered milk,
lard, beef tallow, rendered bear fatFood was all prepared. There was nothing packaged or bought cooked, although there were grocery stores in the town, it was basic food. Ingredients as we would say, now. I did not eat in a restaurant until I was in my mid-teens. I did not taste any but root vegetables and wild vegetable or fruit, but fall apples, and oranges at Christmasw, until then either.
All desserts or sweets were made, nothing bought.
All meats were from game butchered, or bought cut to order and had to be slow cooked, pounded or marinated to tenderize. All fat kept for pemmican, pork and fish home smoked…
Actual dishes?
Stews
Home made soups
Casseroles
Chowders
Roasts (of game on holidays, fowl was considered expensive because hunted or sent north, and therefore limited, and wild game is small, gamey, and tough, so the idea of turkey and chicken is really very southern and I think, urban.)
ethinic food oh yeah–pyroghy, kubasa, cabbage rolls, etc too many to list
All bread home madeSalad? Coleslaw, home made sauerkraut, jellied salad on special occasion :) and other than that, cooked root vegetables, in summer some raw perishable vegetables. cooked beans
spaghetti for the young onesHome brewed beer and root beer, “moose milk” (potato champagne), tea always with milk and sugar (a staple on hunts and in 40 degree below zero)
Can’t remember…
Oh yes, the fudge food group. Every kind you can think of. I and several of my girlfriends perfected that when we were about 12.
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witchy-woo says:
English peas? wtf are they, then? We have peas, petit pois, garden or processed (the two latter come in tins). I’m not sure we nationalise any of our veg, do we?
When I was growing up we ate well though we were poor. My mum was French and brought some kind of innate skill with her to defeat the tripe and onions mentality of my Liverpudlian father. Though when she first arrived here no-one in the refectory told her how to eat porridge (which she’d never, ever seen before) and so she ate it RAW! gods :(
We had stuff like escalope panee, ratatouille, brioche, dressed salad (v odd over here, in those days) haricot vere, camambert and brie. And coffee. Real coffee. I’m still a caffeine addict…
School dinners were awesomely awful. Pease pudding is something that still makes me retch when I think about it. And those little thirds of a pint of milk at playtime that were either frozen in the winter or going off in the summer. Ugh.
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Jeff says:
All of the above, except liver and onions. Onions are superb, but even they cannot enhance the tatse of liver. That, and most pecan pie is much too sweet.
Burrow, you are not the only one who loved their brussel sprouts. But you forgot cauliflower and broccoli.
And what about ham hocks and beans, and collard greens? And spinach, and turnip greens. And there’s also boiled cabbage, with or without potatos and/or corned beef.
And that brings up a Reuben sandwich, such a delight in the sensation of taste. Corned beef, sauerkrout, Swiss cheese, thousand island dressing on rye bread; a literal smorgasbord of continental cuisine in a single sandwich.
You guys are making my mouth water and wish I was still a kid living at home.
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Burrow says:
It’s actually easier for me to think of things we weren’t allowed to eat that still scare me like mayonnaise, fluff (what the hell is up with that stuff), any sort of liquid cheese thing (canned/jarred: see above what the hell), various other processed things. SO happy that at the very least my parents were about homemade meals with at least 2 vegetables as sides.
And no soda growing up has made me a juiceaholic.
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AradhanaDevindra says:
I grew up on vegetarian Indian food mostly. (if you aren’t familiar with Indian vegetarian cuisine – you’ll have to look it up). I was lucky – my mom was a good cook and I loved vegetables (my dad tried once in a blue moon but his microwaved indian sabji’s were just edible):
Channa bhatura (it was my favorite – every bday until I was 19!)
Paneer all types
Ghobi sabji
khadhi
roti, tikadiya, pooris
alloo parathas
suji halwa
Kofta
Veggie burgers (my mom makes em with potatoes)
pani poori, rajma, daal (a zillion types with a zillion veggies)
zillion types of pickles and chutneys
Bread rolls and cutlets
Indian Hakka stuff – like sweet and sour, fried rice and corn soup.
Springrolls
Tacos
pizza (with paneer – we didn’t eat rennet based cheeses)
dosa, chila, upthapum, upma, idli, bhel
grilled cheese sandwiches and spiced up refried campbells tomato soup.
cachoris, samosas, perogis (frozen LOL), all sorts of salads
baingan bhurta
a zillion ways to make potatoes…And to avoid being ‘embarassed’ by ‘ethnic cuisine’ at lunch I had PEANUT BUTTER AND JAM SANDWICHEES NEARLY EVERDAY for the first 10 yrs of my life! And when you grow up a veggie, you REALLY can’t trade for a tuna/egg/ham sandwich with anyone else – and who the hell likes pbj sandwiches anyways? Then we moved to the ‘ghetto’ where we were all ‘coloured’ and I grew a spine – and decided damn it – I liked cold pullau with yogurt a lot! mmm…
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Paul Tergeist says:
9 paul is wrong!!!! (no triumphalism there) this english person does not call them ‘english peas’ and have never heard the term.
-RCNeither have I. I thought it was a trick question. You know, like ‘how many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb’?
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therealUK says:
English peas are called peas here, but gardeners and cooks will sometimes say “garden peas” or (less common) “green peas”, in order to distinguish from other peas – yellow split-peas for instance.
Growing up I had the traditional meat and two veg diet, quite basic really but home cooked and with some homegrown and wild fruit and veg. Much more varied now, but unfortunately no home grown. Would like to be more self-sufficient.
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manxome says:
Mmmmm. I’m moving in with Pony!
The homemade stuff: dumpling soup, ham and bean soup, stuffed cabbage, potato salad, pot roast, fried chicken (deep), french fries (deep), meatloaf, three bean salad, vegetable soup.
The staples. Three ingredients! Three words in the name!
Monday meat pie (shepherd’s pie) – ground beef, can of vegetable soup, instant mashed potatoes on top.
Tater tot casserole – ground beef, can of cream of celery soup, tater tots on top.
Chili bean hotdish – ground beef, can of chili beans, can of kidney beans.
Goulash (okay, that’s not three words in the name, but it’s also nothing like real goulash) – ground beef, can of tomatoes, macaroni.I sense a theme here! The theme being born to 19 year-old parents and at a time when ground beef was as cheap as it is convenient. Well, so was cube steak. Eww, I hated that stuff.
I pretty much consider all of the above comfort foods today. There was also chipped beef on toast, which mom made with that dreaded buddig brand ‘beef’ that is in no way chipped, and grilled cheese sandwiches. How could one ever go wrong with grilled cheese?
Anything else was probably not memorable, which is why I don’t remember it.
Dang, now I’m really wantin’ some dumpling soup or stuffed cabbage, but will settle for the Nutella snack size pack I got yesterday.
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Violet says:
Y’all have to remember to say where you grew up!
Burrow: My mother loves brussel sprouts and always tried to get us to eat them. My brother and I would hide them in our napkins.
My Dad took it as a personal affront when I became a vegetarian, and then he really hated it when my mom also went off meat for the most part. But he adapted by making his gravy without meat drippings, increasing the quantities of vegetables, and so forth.
Also: what is fluff?
Pony: You remind me of the book “Hungry Planet” which surveys food eaten around the world. Everywhere people are eating either processed/prepared food or basic agricultural products – until the book gets to Greenland where the featured family uses sled dogs and hunts seal and game birds. It’s a fascinating situation, because the Greenlander family does have some packaged food from the store and their home is quite modern – satellite dish TV, etc. They just also have a dead seal in the hallway that the mother is busy butchering and some dead birds laying on the kitchen table.
One other thing, Pony: I’m curious about the ethnic food you mention. Was there a Russian community near you?
Witchy-Woo: I thought pease pudding existed only in nursery rhymes.
Jeff: where did you grow up? The mix of turnip greens and collard greens (southern American) with things like cabbage is making me curious.
AradhanaDevindra: Indian food is wonderful. That’s such a great cuisine for a vegetarian. For me the spices are often a bit too strong – I need mild seasoning – but the smell is delicious.
Richard and therealUK: I think they got to be called “English peas” here to distinguish them from black-eyed peas, at least in the South. Richard, this is one case where the item is correctly named, at least from the point of view of the American colonists. English peas were the peas they had brought with them from home, while black-eyed peas were an African import that became extremely popular in the southern states.
TherealUK: when you say “meat and two veg,” what were the veggies?
Manxome: you grew up in Virginia, right? Interesting combination of lowland southern style (that deepfried stuff) and things like shepherd’s pie and stuffed cabbage, which seem northern to me. I didn’t even know what shepherd’s pie was until adulthood.
By the way, Manx’s comment reminded me that I forgot my Dad’s brilliant potato salad, which is the greatest potato salad in the history of Western civilization and is the ideal accompaniment to his fried chicken. Our potato salad is the yellow kind, not the white “German” kind that’s made with vinegar.
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manxome says:
Violet, I’ve been in Virginia since I was 12 years old (And it was northern Virginia, for that matter). Before that it was Colorado mainly, and New Jersey and New Hampshire before that, but the biggest influence is probably my parents and ancestors South Dakota/German roots.
Mom’s potato sald is the mustard style though (we saved the vinegar for the stuffed cabbage), and not sickly sweet like that gunk you get in the store. It is by default better than your dad’s and everyone else’s on the planet, because that’s how it is with things like potato salad.
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henderson says:
We couldn’t have procesed food where I grew up becuase it always had bugs in it. YOu would buy the processed food and then always have to hit the box then jump back to get out of the way of the flow of little bugs that had made a home inside. Also you had to drink water out of an old Britsh invented ceramic tank that had filters in it. And ice cream was chewy ( yes chewy like gum) because by the time it got to where we lived it was already 5 years old. Every week I had to take a quinine tablet crushed up in something sweet because it’s extremely bitter. Soooo, I came to see processed food as a treat. Today in ‘Merka I still get a kick out of it. It amuses me to no end. And so does the supermarket.
I’m not going to say where i grew up.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Say, since Thanksgiving presumably means thanking GOD for the bounty HE provided, does anyone still make dung bread as the Bible tells us?
Ezekiel
4:12 And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.I don’t see how it can be a real Thanksgiving or Christmas without some good old fashion dung bread.
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Violet says:
Manxome, thanks for explaining about the different influences on your family’s cooking. I was thinking I had never heard of any strand of southern cuisine that featured stuffed cabbage and dumpling soup and shepherd’s pie…
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henderson says:
Since there’s all these English folks on here. I notice that you guys have alot of puddings. You are the pudding makin’est folks on the planet. To me, pudding is chocolate and comes in cup made by the Jello people. But you guys have puddings I can’t even imagine what they are. What is blood pudding? Everyone I know who has tried it says that it’s great. But I can’t get past the name and the looks. Cause the other thing I notice about English pudding is that some of it is the butt ugliest looking food i ever saw. Maybe not THE butt ugliest. but right up there. Not to give you a hard time though, because when I’ve been to England I actually like the food alot. Everyone else was making jokes about it. But I liked it. Never tried those puddings though.
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Violet says:
Oh, I forgot about grits. Grits belong to the breakfast menu, not the supper menu, which is why I didn’t think of them.
Who grew up eating grits? Grits are fantastic.
Perfect country breakfast:
Biscuits
Sausage with gravy (or bacon, no gravy)
Grits
Scrambled EggsGrits should be cooked with a little salt and eaten with butter. Cheese grits are a bizarre abomination that I’ve heard of but never actually seen.
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Infidel says:
Midwest, Chicago
Polish Sausage, sourkraut, english muffins, eggs Benedict, pumpernickle bread, rye bread, wheat bread, beer bread, potato bread, french bread, matzo, melba toast, rye krisp, oyster crakers, alphabet soup, alphabet cereal,
Fluff is what you make Fluffernutters out of. Liquid marshmello that you put on a sandwhich with peanut butter. Fluff my mother refused to buy, but I had it over at my friends- which reminds me- at my Friends house where I spent alot of the time there were all those Italian dishes and an entirely different kind of Lasagna, spagghetti, bacon&eggs, potato salad, tuna salad, even the grilled cheese sandwhiches were different due to butter instead of margerine, and kraft singles instead of velveeta. -
Infidel says:
…and Paul, isn’t it that you cook with the dung, like light it on fire and cook with it, out in the desert where wood is scarce, cook with dung, not like its an ingredient?
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Infidel says:
….Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles
No Shit. Gross
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Paul Tergeist says:
My mom didn’t know how to cook scrambled eggs. Oh, she made ‘em, but they weren’t perfect like mine, with each morsel moist but not runny. It’s an art.
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Pony says:
I’ll be looking for that book Violet.
Our west was heavily ‘homesteaded’ by northern Europeans, than eastern Europeans–Ukrainians, Poles, Germans, Hungarians, Jews in the 1800s and early 1990s. Their language and culture, and right to school their children in that language is protected. That’s all subjects taught in Ukrainian for example, K-12.
Northern Canada (that’s the northern part of the provinces as well as real north, Nunuvut and Yukon, is still a hunting culture, even if one is not native. So yeh, a deer in the shed is nothing, even in the city.
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Paul Tergeist says:
35, Yep, it’s supposed to be fuel. But lemme tell you that if mammy is out collectin’ pappy’s shit, and puddles of kiddie poop to cook with, and it’s out in the desert with no wood and no water to use for washing, that good old country flavor is going to find it’s way into the bread. Dung bread dipped in yellow camel milk! YUM!
‘scuse me while I open a can of peaches.
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henderson says:
They told me about America but I never beleived them. Coming here, the first thing I noticed was it’s cleanliness. All the streets were paved, and there was no trash or animals all over the place. The other thing I noticed was that everyone obeyed the traffic laws. Even when there was no one around to see them. They stopped at traffic lights and stop signs instead of just beeping and blowing through. Also, people waited their turn in lines instead of it being a desparate free for all. And you could get gas whenever you wanted it. And buy a newspaper right off an unattended rack on the street and no one would steal the newspapers. The other thing I couldn’t believe was the fact that you could turn on the tap and drink good water right out of it without getting sick. and all the telephones worked. And there was color TV with many channels that worked all day and night. The lights never went out. and the food was amazing. You could get anything you wanted, anything anytime day or night. and it was all good. Everything tasted good.
Thanksgiving means alot to me.
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Infidel says:
and Jesus Christ in little wafers. He died for me when I didn’t even exist.
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Mandos says:
I ate the meatly complement to Aradhana Devindra’s vegetarian Indian food. All spicy food. I come from a Muslim South Indian background, which isn’t vegetarian but still has adopted a lot of the lentilly potatoey cuisine, but my mother’s side of the family moved to Pakistan when it was created, and Pakistanis are aggressive consumers of meat. I definitely preferred the latter cuisine. Chicken qurma, beef (not tradition but available in Western Canada) dopiaza, meat biriyani, karahi gosht, and so on. Generally, the more north you go in South Asia, the more meatly the cuisine, until you get to Afghanistan where it is all BBQ meat or meat swimming in oil with nary a salad in sight.
We also had spicy versions of traditional North American food. Like roast beef with a gravy that would put tears in the average Canadian’s eyes.
I greatly disliked daal or purrael (a potato dish) and a lot of the vegetarian Indian foods. They were mushy and gross. I had no trouble with vegetables as such, I just didn’t get the vegetarian Indian habit of eating predigested mush. I suspect that I have some unusual sensitivities, because daal smells to me like the smell of petroleum at a gas station pump. People tell me I’m crazy but that’s what I smell.
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henderson says:
Paul and infidel you are as bad a Xtians. Can’t have a discussion without bringing in the Bible. Even if it has nothing to do with the discussion.
Dung cooked food has that interesting, earthy woodsy down home smell and taste that you can’t get with mesquite. And the flies love you for it. They don’t even react like normal flies. You can try to shoo them away with you hand, but they just won’t go. You actually have to pick them off. They like you so much they will follow you whereever you go and you have to share your food with them. You may as well give them names like Spot and Fluffy.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Thank you Henderson, for your kind words. We were discussing recipes and I merely recommended one for the godbags in the listening audience who might wish to get closer to JESUS by eating shit. Do not diss me and my pal Fidel, or our lovely pets Spot and Fluffy!
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Paul Tergeist says:
P.S. If you don’t like ‘Murka, go back to Poland, you homer.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Mandos, I have been waiting for years for you to admit your ethnicity so I could diss you properly. But I am caught out this lovely morning without anything bad to say, having used my best stinging rebuke on the hated foreigner Henderson. Please accept my apologies. I will get back to you.
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Mandos says:
No worries, Paul.
Oh, and…I admitted my ethnicity long ago. I’m a Canadian Muslim of South Asian extraction. I thought I had said that repeatedly even here.
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henderson says:
When they say “South Asia” They mean India usually. That is the newish, cool term for it. Don’t you watch cable business reports from Asia, Paul? NO, you’re too busy reading the Bible to find new ways to give Xtians a hard time.
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therealUK says:
Henderson What is blood pudding?
It’s like a sausage but made with pigs blood along with the pieces of fat and filler (barley/rusk) and then is boiled before it’s sold. It is nicer than it sounds (if you’re a meat-eater that is). Good sliced and fried for breakfast.
Otherwise “pudding” is just another name for a dessert or sweet course – fruit pie, crumble, flavoured sponges, custard etc.
Violet, “meat and two veg” is more of a general term for a style of food rather than just a literal description. It would be something like a piece of meat with boiled potatoes and one other veg, like carrots/peas/cabbage/turnip. Sometimes two or more veg plus potato and trimmings – especially with sunday roast (the roast dinner being the pinnacle of this style of food).
The beeb had an interesting documentary recently about the influence of poverty, the wars and rationing on “British” cuisine, can’t remember it all, but my parent’s and grandparent’s (working class) generation were certainly much influenced by being around in those times.
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Infidel says:
angels on horseback, shrimp, -littany of shrimp ala Forrest Gump’s friend- scallops, clam chowder-mostly Campbells, perch, northern, walleye, orange roughy, (never had lobster as a kid), black eyed peas, corned beef hash with cheese melted on top, baked potatoes, won ton, pierogies, porkchops w/apple sauce…
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Infidel says:
English Peas?
THE SWEET-PEA AND THE HEATH OR WOOD-PEA.—The well-known sweet-pea forms a fine covering to a trellis, or lattice-work in a flower-garden. Its gay and fragrant flowers, with its rambling habit, render it peculiarly adapted for such a purpose. The wood-pea, or heath-pea, is found in the heaths of Scotland, and the Highlanders of that country are extremely partial to them, and dry and chew them to give a greater relish to their whiskey. They also regard them as good against chest complaints, and say that by the use of them they are enabled to withstand hunger and thirst for a long time. The peas have a sweet taste, somewhat like the root of liquorice, and, when boiled, have an agreeable flavour, and are nutritive. In times of scarcity they have served as an article of food. When well boiled, a fork will pass through them; and, slightly dried, they are roasted, and in Holland and Flanders served up like chestnuts.
-Mrs Beeton-…guacamole, salsa, avacado, brussle sprouts, raisins, prunes, peaches, bacon wrapped lamb patties, pound cake, brownies, fudge, stuff(chex mix), artichoke hearts, fondue,…
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henderson says:
Thanks realUK,
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Violet says:
Oh for God’s sake. The sweet pea is a flower. English peas are the same as garden peas, green peas, common peas. There is no mystery about what an English pea is.
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Infidel says:
Mrs Beeton would know.
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Infidel says:
…little did she know I had broken her code, the innocent little English Pea, the Pisum Sativum, which backwards is muvitas musip or– a Middle Ultraviolet Imaging Target Acquisition System using Multi-Sensor Image Processing. so to all you Ptians- the moss grows on the smelters tome, the moss grows on the smelters tome.
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richard cherry says:
Vi – ‘there is no mystery about what an English pea is’.
…unless you are english. I take it that you mean ‘peas’ as they are known in Britain.
Pony – you ate root vegetables with the feet and heads??? you canad-ee-i-oh-ans are something else. Goodness there are a lot of you here all looking at me like that.
Paul – I believe the usual punchline to ‘how many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb’? is ‘that’s not funny’ – and that was from a feminist. Well she said she was – it’s so hard these days…maybe she was more badfem than radfem or sexpos or posidrive or philips or flathead…
Witchy – your diet in the UK when you and I were growing up must have been well-nigh unique. England really hadn’t discovered food at all then (don’t let your french half tell you we still haven’t!!!) I surmise you were raised North of the Wash (in ‘It’sgrimoopnorth’ as it is known) as pease pudding is no myth there. It is the nearest our culture had then to the ambrosia (no NOT the rice pudding, foolish ones) that is dal. I knew I was at a very posh premiere in Newcastle once when the host invited all us actors to have ham AND pease puddin’. A touch of salt and… viola! My mother’s ham and pease puddin buns (rolls or baps to the unlettered)…proust’s bloody madeleines pah! and when i went back to my friend’s (an actor from a Walsend shipbuilding family)after the working men’s club on a Friday night there was a plate of same left out for us.
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Violet says:
Pease porridge hot!
Pease porridge cold!
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henderson says:
What is porridge? In childrens stories, there’s alot of porridge mentioned.
The other thing that stuck me about waiting in lines in America is that some people actually let you go ahead of them in the line if they weren’t in a hurry, or if you had a child, or if you were old. This was an unheard of thing. It’s little things like that which are more amazing than they seem to some people who are used to it. I once dropped my wallet and someone picked it up and handed it back to me. Other times I had given more money in change and they gave me back they money that I had miscounted. It may seem like nothing to many of you, but it’s quite amazing to others. Street sweepers. WOW! I still stop my work to watch the gargage guys come with their robot garbage collection trucks and do the dumpsters.
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henderson says:
I got a million of ‘em. I should put this on the Thanksgiving thread. I’m still happy from yesterday.
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Jeff says:
Vi,
Like you, I grew up all over the place. My Dad joined the Army when I was two and a half. My family is from northeastern Indiana, but I lived in 14 states and France before I graduated. Then I joined the Army. Go figure. The majority of those states were in the South, especially during the first fifteen years Dad was in. That’s probably where Mom picked up the Southern cooking, which I truly enjoy, but no more than REAL Mexican cooking, or the very spicy varieties of Chinese cooking, and don’t ever forget Italian. I guess I just enjoy food very much, and happened to be lucky enough to be in a position throughout the first 30 or so years of my life to be able to try out an almost unlimited variety. But, I still, and always will, hate liver!
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Infidel says:
Braunswieger Liver Sausage, moon meat(bologna), budding ham, budding beef, budding turkey, budding chicken, deviled ham, pickle & pimento loaf, meat loaf, pork fritters, those breaded crab meat things on the half shell, chicken paprikash, fried chicken, stuffed and baked chicken, chicken cassarole,…
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Burrow says:
“For me the spices are often a bit too strong – I need mild seasoning – but the smell is delicious.”
Violet has honky mouth!!! Muahahahahahha.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Oh, and…I admitted my ethnicity long ago. I’m a Canadian Muslim of South Asian extraction. I thought I had said that repeatedly even here.
-MandosI’m sure you did but I can’t be arsed to read things before I reply to them.
to 48: Piffle. I don’t read the bible. I just go over to Landover Baptist and they tell me what to say.
Answer: Two. But they have to be very tiny ones to fit inside of it. Bahahahahaha…tiny ones…get it? I crack myself up.
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Jeff says:
Paul,
That would be how many flies it takes to screw in a light bulb. The trick is getting them in there. But I’ll agree, you are slightly cracked. It’s probably that Pastor Pistle. He seems to affect me the same way when I spend too much time at Landoover.
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AradhanaDevindra says:
“I just didn’t get the vegetarian Indian habit of eating predigested mush.” – mandos, biologically speaking – the only reason why you are able to ‘digest’ meat is because it’s ‘like you’ – i.e. already semi-digested. It takes much longer to digest vegetables, that’s why most veggies are ‘regular’.. he he he
Anyways, none of the veggies I’ve ever had have been mushy. I prefer them a little ‘khadha’ i.e. crunchier. But every cuisine in India is soooo diverse, even when you make the same dish – it tastes really different in different parts.
Also, not to nitpick the ‘going up north’ india part. I’m really Northern myself (without revealing what I am), I have to say – we’re the most conservative and therefore most ‘pukka’ vegetarians in India. Actually, it’s rare you’ll find meat-eaters in our sub-culture at all, even in the diaspora (and no I’m not from a dominant guju/panju diasporic groups). We also border pakistan, oddly enough – ‘authentic veg’ cuisine from my region means no veggies either. Mostly grains, fine herbs, lentils, nuts and milk products – go figure, fairly nutritious diet nonetheless. I wish I could cook that kind of food more. It’s so good. I just get it when I visit my grammas. mmmm.
Violet – you don’t need to add cayenne/green/red chillies to Indian food. My grandfathers both have delicate palates and other health issues. So their food is primarily BLAND with mild seasonings (a lot of dishes use fenugreek leaves to make it flavourful yet – not spicy, like fenugreek daals and vegetable dishes)… A lot of people eat indian food that way. I would say most stuff you get at Indian restaurants is like eating ‘wedding’ food, too rich, too greasy, too spicy and too fatty – it’s nothing like what most Indians eat at home on a DAILY basis. I wish there were ‘homestyle’ Indian restaurants around. That would be cool.
Mandos – I too hated daal A LOT, but now I love it… Oh dude, Pakistani daals are like the best, my friend makes it with plums and dates and stuff. I’d never heard of it made that way, now I started copying him at home.
Oh yes, Mandos – that actually MIGHT BE KEROSENE in your daal my friend! Really, i kid not… Most daals are heavily oiled (often ‘edible’ oils are used) before they are exported. You need to make sure you wash Indian/Pakistaani daal a lot before you eat it! Toohar/arhar daal especially. Other things like moong, udat, etc…aren’t usually oiled.
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Paul Tergeist says:
I’m really Northern myself (without revealing what I am)
-ADEven if you mentioned some obscure place in India, who he hell cares? Mandos is like that as well. Do you think we are going to throw some ju-ju or the evil eye on you if we know where you are from or are you from some lowly caste that should not be speaking with real people?
Now that I think of it, Violet is just as paranoid as the rest of you. God forbid you should ever have to stand up and defend yourselves from a wild parakeet.
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henderson says:
Paul
It took me three readings of your joke to get it. hehehehe.I finally got it! I’m going to tell it to my freind.You Indian folks. I think you are the most interesting folks in the whole wide world. personal aside- I think you are going to end up taking over the world. Best looking too. I saw a program about .. let me get this straight… please pardon the misspelling
Duba wallas.
it was just about the coolest thing I’d ever seen. Home cooked lunches for the working folks. Absolutely brilliant.
i have so many questions to ask you guys but the questions would come out too impertinant or stupid.
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Jeff says:
Send in those parakeets!! We have squirrel guns in Indiana, and we ain’t afraid to use them on birds, whether they’re in season or not!!
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Jeff says:
Never had parakeet. Wonder if it tastes anything like chicken.
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Mandos says:
AD: I’ve never seen Pakistani daals made with plums and dates, but that may be different Pakistanis. We’re Madrassi transplants to Karachi, on my mother’s side. On my father’s, just Madrassis. The kind I’ve seen has sauteed onions on top. I love sauteed onions, but not on daal.
My mother *always* soaked and washed the daal as I remember it. And I think the daal was moong, usually. I think it still may be the variety of daal. I think this, because I can eat Ethiopian lentils without getting grossed out, but I cannot eat Indo-Paki daals even in fancy restaurants. I *can* eat daal when it is made into haleem, but haleem is meatly. The meat seems to make it better.
Speaking of Indian restaurants and Ethiopian food, I find that a good Ethiopian restaurant is more like eating homestyle Indian food than Indian restaurants with the exception of southern Indian restaurants. Yes, there isn’t all that much relation between what you get at Indian restaurant and what gets eaten at home on a daily basis. However, everything I ate at home was far far hotter than most Indian restaurants, and I still find it hard to eat anything without adding hot sauce to it.
So, my impression of Indian southerners and vegetarianism may be skewed by the fact that southern Indian restaurants—ie, idly-dosa establishments—tend to serve far less meat than the “regular” Indian restaurants. Also, my Madrassi family tended to associate with Brahmin Hindus who were probably not all that strict about other things, but usually pretty strict about the vegetarianism.
I have a feeling that Pakistani Atkins-dietism by, eg, Karachiites is partly driven by nationalism, though I know that it is definitely native to northern Pakistan and its cultural contiguities in Afghanistan.
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Paul Tergeist says:
“Never had parakeet. Wonder if it tastes anything like chicken.”
-jeffThey taste like spotted owl, but you have to get a whole passel of them to make a meal.
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AradhanaDevindra says:
Oh geez, yes Mandos – that makes perfect sense!!! yes, south indian veggy dishes are super soggy! even when I get vegetable dishes in south indian restaurants – I tend to order north indian ones, except for avial!!! LOL. I didn’t realize you were south indian and pakistani! And definitely think south indian food is so much hotter.
And you are SOOOO right about ethiopian cuisine – it’s nearly the same as eating homestyle indian food, exactly! I can’t remember the name of the bread/pancake they use, but the curries taste just like the way you make them at home.
I think hyper-vegetarianism and hyper-meatism are definitely nationalistic in nature esplly in s. asia. I don’t know if you’ve heard about how vegetarianism is being used to discriminate against non-hindus in Mumbai. I would never have thought about the political/fundie nature of something like vegetarianism, but because hinduism is largely based on notions of ‘purity’ it is obviously feasible.
Paul, though I don’t need to answer your question (I think a discussion on anonymity is a little irritating – coming from a guy that calls himself Poltergeist), but that’s okay. I’m a minority amongst minorities and instead of referring to myself as a ‘supernatural’ phenomenon (though I have no problems with people thinking of me that way), I like discussions on race/culture etc…
In fact, to be entirely honest I didn’t quite get the whole thread about ‘american’ cuisine. My contribution to this thread was to highlight my experiences growing up in north america. after all it’s been 100 yrs since the first south asians came to north america (specifically BC and Cali).
I think in the next 30 yrs, just like tex-mex is a phenomenon unto itself, it’s likely that indo-canadian food will be a category unto itself because it’s so removed from everyday Indian food. Just like Hakka chinese indian is a category unto itself.
Anyways, henderson, I might only be able direct you to better resources about south asia as I don’t know enough about it myself… Just pieces.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Paul, though I don’t need to answer your question (I think a discussion on anonymity is a little irritating – coming from a guy that calls himself Poltergeist), but that’s okay. I’m a minority amongst minorities and instead of referring to myself as a ’supernatural’ phenomenon (though I have no problems with people thinking of me that way), I like discussions on race/culture etc…
-ADSo you admit it. But it’s OK, we here in the great US of A accept all comers….except Mexicans, apparently…even dotheads of the lowest castes. So you are good with me. But I’d be careful at the Fun Factory if Michael Richards is doing a routine.
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Mandos says:
AD: Mind you, I *love* dosas. The crispy kind. I’ll even tolerate the daal-based sambar they use for dipping. But I greatly dislike the filling they usually put in the dosa, which is this kind of purrael mix. There is no Indian cuisine in which I like the alu, no siree.
The Ethiopian bread is called injera, and it’s a sourdough made out of a native African grain called teff, under ideal circumstances. It’s one of the few things in Ethiopian cuisine (and an important one) that makes Ethiopian differ signficantly from homestyle Indo-Pak, as far as I’ve seen. I like it though.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Holy moly, can’t you please stop talking about that disgusting muck? It’s enough to gag most of us.
Haven’t’ you ever had a piece of fresh, hot apple pie and a glass of cold milk?
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Violet says:
Mandos and AD, that’s fascinating about the similarity between Ethiopian food and homestyle Indian food, because I absolutely LOVE Ethiopian food. Love it. I remember the first time I ate at an Ethiopian restaurant — it was run by immigrants, of course, and very homey. All the diners crowded next to each other on benches and the injera was slapped down right on the wooden table. I asked the server to point out which of the colorful mounds of mush were the hot ones so I could avoid, and then I was good to go. Yummy food.
A friend of mine is a Tamil Brahmin from Madras, but I’ve never tasted his cooking.
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henderson says:
AD I bought a book on the History of India and i’m looking up all my silly questions about you guys on the internet.
African cuisine varies widely by region and even by a few hectars, and I encourage anybody who likes to try new food to find a restaurant that serves some. I think African cuisine has some of the finest tastes and doesnt get mentioned or attempted by chefs nearly as much as it ought. and to be honest, the best food I have ever tasted and finest chefs were African. Thanks, you guys, for giving some of it honorable mention on this food thread.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Enjoy Ethiopian food while you can.
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henderson says:
It is not a good idea for the US to get involved in Africa. There is too much we do not understand. Even when intentions are good, there is just too much we do not understand. As hard as it may seem at times, it is still better to stay out of things.
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Older says:
Increased war in Ethiopia will increase, not decrease, our opportunities to eat that fine Ethiopian food. There are already many Ethiopian and Somali (similar cuisine) refugees in the US and probably Europe also, and war will just increase the number. Not that that’s a good thing. The situation in East Africa is tragic.
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henderson says:
Yes, Older I think you are right.
Paul and others, be careful what you read and from whom you read it. Especially when it comes to things going on in Africa. Beware to take everything read at face value. It can be extremely difficult for outsiders to get a good handle on things. Even for insiders for that matter. Be careful of quick judgements on complicated geopolitical, local and regional African events. And another thing that is going to sound really bad but I know what I mean. Trust NO ONE. It’s not like Europe or America. Not even in the smallest aspects. Just saying. Someone can come and yell at me if they want. I mean well. -
richard cherry says:
It is not a good idea for the US to get involved in Africa.
or Canada…or Europe…or Central and South America…or Asia…or hey what the hell … the US.
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henderson says:
We stole the moon fair and square
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henderson says:
cherry, you are a ninkipoo
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AradhanaDevindra says:
Poltergeist – you’re annoying. I never ‘admitted’ to anything. I refuse to answer anything from you ever again. I don’t need to be indebted to the US of A hospitality as I don’t live there, and even if I did – there’s a reason why immigrants come to your country dimwit, it’s because your government is always desperate for certain skills/occupations to be filled.
Mandos – it was fun talking about the grub… I am pretty damn hungry now. Going to eat some Karela!!!! LOL bet you don’t like that either.
Henderson: re: “you guys”… There’s no “YOU GUYS” to refer to. Mandos and I are from different parts of India and partly south asia. It’s like Ireland and the UK. similar but different.
Additionally, I can’t be of much help cause I am “INDO-CANADIAN” and therefore not a representative of ‘the motherland of ‘you guys”.
This is just to start you off on your understanding of history.
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henderson says:
AD
Okay. I understand fully and did before the “you guys”. It’s just a figure of speech that I use. I thought maybe you knew that. I’m sorry. I knew a touch about India. Enough to know that you and Mandos are different. But I don’t know nearly as nearly as much as I would like. It was meant as freindly.I feel indebtedness to the United States. And Paul is only kidding with you. He will kid till the cows come home. He’s just pulling your leg. or your pig tails as the case may be. He can take a joke too. He’s a pretty good sport.
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henderson says:
there’s a reason why immigrants come to your country dimwit, it’s because your government is always desperate for certain skills/occupations to be filled.
They come because they want/need/hope to for reasons of their own. They are admitted for various reasons. Including the one you mentioned. Gratitude is a good thing to have. I know immigrant physisians who have it. I know people who have lived here for generations who don’t know the meaning of the word.
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henderson says:
Dammit. Phyisians??? Phisistians? Fisisions? Doctors for people. me dimwit too. See, they’ll let anybody in this doggone country.
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Paul Tergeist says:
“It is not a good idea for the US to get involved in Africa.”
-RCIt is not a good idea for the US to get involved anywhere except, of course, for the imminent invasions of Canada and Mexico.
“you’re annoying. I never ‘admitted’ to anything.”
-ADYou admit to being on my continent speaking my language and sharing in my largesse, so I guess the question is settled. There is a reason all the “INDO-WHATEVERS” are trying to get out of their own countries.
Dammit. Phyisians???
-hendersonPhysicians, Henderson.. No prob, we Americans have your back.
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Paul Tergeist says:
I am having a premonition of an earthquake. If we have one, someone kindly look at the time stamp of this post and compare it to the event.
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AradhanaDevindra says:
I know it’s no loss to any of you – but I will never post at RL again. It’s not funny – and you can ‘suck my left one’ seriously, here’s a nice little article on PCism, if you’d like (since your only rhetorical excuse out of this would be for me to ‘lighten up’ cause I’m being PC): http://www.kaichang.net/2006/1....._prop.html
Henderson and paul – many of ‘us’ came to this country because we were fucking ASKED to – whether you like it or not. This includes desperate recruiting on the parts of YOUR governments be it through scholarships, job fairs etc… Look it up for goddess sakes. I have no fucking reason to sit around and be indebted to these governments – because I pay my dues, I support the system and do my share.
And another thing for your dumbasses is – that not all of us came to this continent “poor, dumb and desperate” so therefore we should be ‘indebted’ for sharing your ‘largesse’. In fact, many people from both south asia and east asia have to show that they have a) either the education and/or b) the monetary collateral for their entrance. So you are talking about fairly educated middle class people who migrate. The ‘american dream’ is a self-serving nationalistic piece of tripe propoganda if I ever saw one.
‘you need our work, but not our lives’… (karma of brown folk, persad).
good bye!
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Paul Tergeist says:
“I know it’s no loss to any of you – but I will never post at RL again.”
-ADIt’s a great loss to everyone. Eventually we could have convinced you that even people of the lowest castes can be almost equal to the rest of us. Well, nearly almost.
“Henderson and paul – many of ‘us’ came to this country because we were fucking ASKED to – whether you like it or not.”
ADPlease refer to me as “Sahib Paul” and Henderson as “memsahib”, you disrespectful foreign devil!
I applaud the idea of recruiting in third world countries, but you were most certainly NOT recruited except, possibly, to be a bad example. We do that a lot here and sometimes elect the worst examples to the highest offices in the land.
However, I appreciate the fact that you are in Canuckistan, probably illegally, and have learned enough English to ask “Do you fucking want fries with that”?
I don’t need an ‘excuse out’ of anything, thanks anyway. You obviously like it here more than elsewhere. All of us do. That’s why we…AND YOU…are here instead of wherever you escaped from. And the freedoms we share allow even ingrates like yourself to participate in democracy and choose your own spouse, yet do not require you to spend four years in the military before completing your education.
When we invade Canada, I will personally see to it that all of you ethnic terrorists are shipped back to Quebec where you belong! Except Mandos. He has a lot of potential and is probably going to be the Governor of the new state.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Back to the question Vi originally asked, I completely forgot PBJs and their successor, peanut butter and banana sandwiches. They were good then and they are good now. I can’t ever remember my mother saying “Wash you daal. It’s been soaking in kerosene.”
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Jimmy Ho says:
Violet,
How is Paul Tergeist’s misogyny and racism any more acceptable than “Antifeminazi”‘s comments?
Never mind. It was bad enough when your regular male commenters were cheerleading against Delphyne and defending their right to access women’s bodies, but this is just too much. Some of us no what experiencing racial and ethnic hate means.
I don’t feel welcome here anymore: I am not “one of you”, I am with “U-people”; I’m out.
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Mandos says:
Hi, AD. Paul is the figment of someone’s imagination. I think it best to ignore his interventions and not take it personally, as he does that to practically everyone. On this board, we have a whole lot of fake people who say absurd things. It’s part of the RL vibe. Very meta.
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Infidel says:
…fake crab legs, crab cakes, spanish rice, rice pilaf(Pilaf), ground turkey & mayonaise, pickles, cherries, beer(my dad bought me beer when I was ten-said it was way cheaper then pop), creamed corn, swedish meatballs, spinach, brocolli&cheese, garlic bread, bread&butter, cucumber sandwhiches, split pea soup with ham, lentil soup with some strange bone, lima beans, succatash, cauliflower,…
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Violet says:
Jesus Christ, I slip away for a day or so and look what happens.
AD (and Jimmy), I apologize for Paul. Mandos’s explanation in 95 is correct. Paul’s doing sort of a Don Rickles act, acting like a sexist racist troll.
Paul, knock it off. Obviously too many people are taking you for real and getting very offended, which I don’t want.
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Infidel says:
That’s only what I got at home. Then there was McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Pizza Hut, Cesars Pizza, Taco Bell, Jag-n-the-Bag(Jack in the Box), Burger King, Arby’s, White Castle, Hardy’s, Bozo’s Hot Dogs,…
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richard cherry says:
henderson: cherry, you are a ninkipoo
why thank you ma’am; it is the first time i have been called that; if i understood it i would be even more grateful.
ps on sober reflection i don’t mind the us meddling with canadia – particularly if it annoys all the whingeing canadian lefties that congregate here on this great american website
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Jeff says:
Hey Richard: I think that was supposed to be nincompoop, which is sort of an endearing insult over here. I guess it’s sort of a slang version of non compus mentis,(sp?), but meant in a friendly way.
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richard cherry says:
‘we Americans have your back’ – hence the number of blue on blue casualties in Iraq.
give me your pissed off, your offended, your racially undervalued your – lte’s face it – traffic and click them all on to http://www.simplywondered.wordpress.com
shameless.
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Paul Tergeist says:
“Paul, knock it off. Obviously too many people are taking you for real and getting very offended, which I don’t want”.
-ViI am unrepentant. People who take ME seriously must first take themselves WAAAAAAAY too seriously.
I am especially honored by Mandos who stated my case rather succinctly. “Very meta”. It is probably the nicest thing anyone here has ever said to me so, if it is an insult, don’t bust my groove by telling me.
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“why thank you ma’am; it is the first time i have been called that; if i understood it i would be even more grateful.”
-RCPardon me for speaking for Henderson, but everything she has ever said has been nice, non-confrontational, and polite. When she is dissed improperly, as happened back in 91, I will take a bullet for her.
“ps on sober reflection i don’t mind the us meddling with canadia – particularly if it annoys all the whingeing canadian lefties that congregate here on this great american website.”
-RCWhingeing is the national sport of Canada. Why didn’t you Pommies teach them something useful….like cricket?
“I will not budge on the moon, tho”.
-RCBugger off the moon (is that acceptable colloquial British talkage?) We DID steal it fair and square and we are preparing to settle a colony there when Gitmo becomes too crowded.
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Paul Tergeist says:
“‘we Americans have your back’ – hence the number of blue on blue casualties in Iraq.”
-RCOur troops are highly trained combat troops. Since they are not allowed to rape and kill Iraqi civilians, one must expect a few friendly fire incidents, OK?
“give me your pissed off, your offended, your racially undervalued your – lte’s face it – traffic and click them all on to http://www.simplywondered.wordpress.com
shameless.oh yes paul never comments there…”
-RCNever heard of it. Anyway, I am too busy trying to keep track of Britney and Paris. That’s why I hang here. Vi is ‘in the know’.
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richard cherry says:
‘they are not allowed to rape and kill Iraqi civilians’ – bloody hell, when did they make that rule?
‘Never heard of it’. (sw’s fabbo blog that is) – and you think that makes you somehow special?
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richard cherry says:
‘Pardon me for speaking for Henderson, but everything she has ever said has been nice, non-confrontational, and polite.’ –
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Paul Tergeist says:
“‘they are not allowed to rape and kill Iraqi civilians’ – bloody hell, when did they make that rule?”
-RCI don’t know, but along with the ‘no pillage’ rule it certainly takes the fun out of war.
“‘Never heard of it’. (sw’s fabbo blog that is) – and you think that makes you somehow special?”
-RCI am already too fabbo. And more would be pushing the envelope.
‘Never heard of it’. (sw’s fabbo blog that is) – and you think that makes you somehow special?
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Paul Tergeist says:
“yes i assumed she was being nice – still don’t know what it means.”
-RC“Dork”.
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Paul Tergeist says:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You’d have to pay large to see me in concert.
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richard cherry says:
dork or nincompoop ! cool and my best guess was a character from the mikado…
thanks jeff – must have cross-postedand by the way, canada do play cricket apart from the wicked french ones (who presumably play french cricket)
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Paul Tergeist says:
and by the way, canada do play cricket apart from the wicked french ones (who presumably play french cricket)
-RCYes, but they suck at it. I don’t even want to know about French cricket. Everyone runs onto the field and gives up I suppose, then sits down to a meal of wine, cheese and fresh baguettes? But I’d join them if they served some crisp sliced apples with it.
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Paul Tergeist says:
I say it’s time we leave Iraq. NOW! We are completely successful at killing almost a thousand civilians a day there and we have trained the Iraqi police and security forces well enough that they are able to kill several hundred civilians a day and will soon equal or exceed our numbers.
Let’s take our oil and our victory and move on to North Korea.
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richard cherry says:
errr, paul; where did everybody else go? is there some polonium on this thread that nobody told us about? or are we the poison…
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Infidel says:
…french fries, onion rings, jello, cherry jello with green grapes, bundt cake, coffee cake, upside down pinapple cake, chocolate cake with chocolate frosting, white cake with pink frosting, cheese cake, strawberry short cake, kiwi, rice pudding,…
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Paul Tergeist says:
or are we the poison…
-RCIt’s us. No, actually, it’s Violet. The blog-dogs are terrified of her and when she stamps her foot everyone cowers. I know I do.
Thank goodness for Fidel, who remains blissfully oblivious, yet relevant.
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richard cherry says:
VS and her policy of oderint dum metuant – sure that’s wrong
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Paul Tergeist says:
Goood Heavens! The idea of Violet as Drusilla, a Vestal Virgin is…….appalling!
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Infidel says:
Doesn’t every child dip their grilled cheese sandwiches in tomato soup? Or eat their tomato soup oyster cracker by oyster cracker? Hate having “skin” on top of their tomato soup? End up with a red mustache when eating tomato soup? Slurp? Crush crackers in tomato soup? Ever have Pepridge Farm Goldfish crackers in tomato soup? mmmmmmm
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Paul Tergeist says:
Listen to me, Raul. Tomatoes are my favorite food. I eat a couple of pounds of them every day. But I cannot abide tomato soup. Oyster crackers….or goldfish are fine and good, but only in clam chowder.
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Infidel says:
Home grown tomatoes-mmmmmm. Is your clam chowder Manhattan style then- might as well be gumbo if it is. A true clam chowder is white and creamy.
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Infidel says:
…chunky with potatos and clams…almost gravy thick….more like a stew….
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Infidel says:
…and a big hunk of french bread fresh out of the oven…melted butter…slight smell of yeast…mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Paul Tergeist says:
My chowder is exactly as you describe it and the main ingredient is clams, not water or potatoes or corn or MSG.
This stuff is so good you can throw away the chicken and just eat the gravy.
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henderson says:
AD- I know about the job fairs and the recruitment. I think that’s a nice thing. I didnt’ mean to make you feel uncomfortable. You and Mandos were having such a nice conversation. I was looking up the dishes you guys were talking about. Wanted to try some. Sometimes people are having a bad day or bad week and are sensitive. I hope you will come back because I like to read all the things you say. You are very clever and articulate. You are one of my very favorite posters.
Sometimes you will be disagreed with or be teased a little bit. Especially if you say something in a clumbsy way. Or get something a little wrong. but that can happen to anybody. The same person who is teasing you one day, may be on your side in a debate the next. And sometimes it’s hard to tell if someone is teasing or if they are serious. I could’nt look at your link about PC because it said Forbidden. or something like that. I don’t do PC. Have been the object of extreme racism in the real- very real- world. and have been the of butt of jokes in a less dire world, like school. Americans will make fun of anything. It’s part of one of their very best traits. Humor is one of the three American traits that I have found that makes them endearing. and have also learned that it’s rarely meant from the very heart. When it gets right down to it, it’s not real most of time. They even make fun of themselves more so sometimes than they make fun of others. I don’t see that with alot of other cultures. It’s like they are not afraid. I am not going to do PC because I don’t see a need for it in most circumstances among nice people.
So please come back and I will pipe down a little more. Your contributions to threads are much better than mine. Paul, on the other hand, is a scream, and I hope he goes nowhere else.
Richard, I was kidding you. I am a big fan of all things British as well. Think you are awesome. Done alot of good things. You guys get a bad rap alot too, but you done alot of good things. Invented alot of wonderful things. No moss growing on your civilization. I didn’t mean “dork”. That word means something a little different.
Not everybody comes here with big skills. Most maybe don’t. Everyone here being an immigrant from somewhere. I think that’s nice and unsual. the American Dream, as far as dreams go sounds pretty good to me. I haven’t acheived it yet. But that brings me to the other trait that I think is nice- Eternal optimism. the belief that anything is possible given enough time.
As for the political statement I made about not thinking it’s such a good idea for us to get involved in Africa. Stands. A dreadful situation could and will be made worse most of the time. Even if the best intensions are persued. Like Babes in the Woods. If they want to do some practical aid like medical, or environmental or build some roads or something along those lines or something non partisan and useful like that. Super. but if someone wants to get invovled, let the Euros do it. And they don’t always get things right either. Note history.I like Macoroni and Cheese.
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richard cherry says:
bloody hell! infidel started conversing in sentences – it’s like garbo burst into song…
blog dog – i am he and an unsound hound at that.
now henderson, you are always so nice, but please don’t connect me with things that my country has done – too much bad in there for one man to carry – still, at least i’m not american.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Henderson, you are a wonderful person with a heart of gold. Don’t apologize when you haven’t done anything wrong (and you haven’t). I’ll make you a plate of macaroni and cheese anytime.
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Infidel says:
If it’s Kraft Mac&Cheese try throwing in a can of tuna(drained) and a can of baby peas(Lesuer)also drained- makes a nice meal. Course I would then black pepper the hell out of it.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Raul, if you are going to complicate mac and cheese, let’s go all out. Cook a pound of egg noodles. Mix a couple cans of tuna, a big can of cream of mushroom soup, a cup of sliced mushrooms, salt and pepper in a pan and heat it up with a little milk. Put the noodles in a casserole dish, stir in the rest and mix. Cover with shredded cheese and bake at 300 until it looks done.
I like baby peas in it but some people are purists.
Here’s another taste treat. Put some hot dogs on a stick and try not to burn them too much over a campfire. Serve in buns with ketchup, onion and a little mustard. You can pour some chili on them as well.
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Infidel says:
…and cheese? Huh George. Tell me about the rabbits again George…
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Paul Tergeist says:
Ok. Take two average size coneys, skinned and gutted. You can use cats if you can’t find any coneys. Disjoint ‘em, lay ‘em up in some beer batter and fry them in a pan.
Tell the family it’s ‘free range chicken’ and go have a grilled cheese sandwich. If you grill it with the mayo on the outside of the bread, it gets nice and golden brown. If you want to spoof THAT up, use sourdough bread and grill sliced ham, some mild chilies and swiss cheese in the sandwich. YUM!
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Infidel says:
….and I get to tend the rabbits! Huh, George, tell ‘em about the rabbits.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Hey Raul. Do you know why Coney Island is named Coney Island?
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henderson says:
Hey George,
I will kiss ‘dem and hug ‘dem and pet ‘dem and feed ‘dem’ and love ‘dem and take ‘dem ‘home an’… Mel Blanc. You guys remember Looney Tunes. is that what you mean Infidel? I have never tasted rabbit. I am not sure i could. I have tasted dog but it got snuck on me as a nasty practical joke. and it kinda tasted like wet goat rather than chicken.I have tries the tuna and macaroni and cheese recipe but without the peas mixed in. Peas on the side. I don’t like my veggies touching my other food.
A wonderful invention is Slim Jims. and Beef Jerky. Who would have ever thought that spiced leather could taste so good? But of course, you don’t go poo poo for a month after.bloody hell! infidel started conversing in sentences – it’s like garbo burst into song…
That’s hysterical.
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Paul Tergeist says:
Drat! Now I guess you will be after my beef jerky recipes. But before I start, I need to tell you how to cut meat for jerky. I happen to like bear, beef, venison and elk jerky but not fish, goat yak or camel jerky. Anyway, meat is grained like wood. You can cut with the grain, across the grain or against the grain. We will get into that in more detail if there is enough interest, but for jerky you want to cut with the grain in chunks about 3//8″ wide and as long as the cut of meat. Then soak it overnight in soy sauce with salt and pepper added. Put it on the slide-out goodies in your oven but make sure you have a piece of foil on the bottom because it’s going to drip. Oven on low-low, turn it over when it gets stiff. Doneness is up to you, but if it is at all raw you have to refrigerate it. You can make it outside in the sun, too. Slather it in a thick coat of salt and pepper over that to keep the flies off it.
Sorry Henderson, but George of the Jungle wasn’t Mel Blanc, it was Bill Scott (who also did Tom Slick, Gertie Growler, Super Chicken and…BULLWINKLE! Daws Butler, Paul Frees and June Foray were also in there.
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richard cherry says:
is there no beginning to your talents, paul?
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Infidel says:
Henderson,
George of George and Lenny, John Steinbacks “Of Mice and Men” which John Malkovich and Gary Sinese do a great movie version but so does Burgess Meridith and Rod Steiger.
I never had rabbit, but my mother used to tell me stories about having a rabbit sandwich and that it was very good but awfully greasy- I guess rabbit meat is rather marbled.
Paul,
No I don’t know why Coney Island is Coney. I envision large billboard sized three dimensional bright lighted ice cream cones along with lights, lights, everywhere lights, and kaliapi music, “we’re on a carousel, a crazy carousel, and we go around again, down, up, again, around, on a carousel, crazy carousel, carousels …and….cotton candy….ferris wheels and kaliapis…cupi dolls with… painted faces…” -
Infidel says:
…that wasn’t Rod Steiger, it was Lon Chaney. “Tell me about the rabbits again George, and, and, how we’re gonna live off the fat’o the land, huh George, and how we are NOTHING, NOTHING!! how we aren’t a man anymore but a Jew, A SHEENIE, AND A KIKE!!!”
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Infidel says:
The Dutch name for the island was Conyne Eylandt [1], or Konijn Eiland (Rabbit Island) using modern Dutch spelling.
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Infidel says:
Wow! never mind
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henderson says:
Just as I was going to bed I remembered the John Steinbeck novel. but couldn’t remember the name. Good one, Infidel. There was a cartoon I thought it was with Mel Blanc, that had a character similar that loved rabbits and would give Bugs a hard time.
George of the Jungle. love it! I like cartoons. And camping. Your roasted hotdogs. Especially camping food. That’s a whole different thing. You try things while camping that otherwise wouldn’t at home. Don’t know why. Not that you can’t make camping food at home.
When i get the courage I will try your homemade beef jerky recipe. I never knew that person could even do that at home!!
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Infidel says:
Violet,
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richard cherry says:
and here was me clicking excitedly on a dead link….oh infidel; you tease.
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Paul Tergeist says:
is there no beginning to your talents, paul?
-RCYes, there isn’t. I am the Kim Peek of the Pacific Rim. My brain is full of arcane knowledge and gunfighting skill, lore historical and the occasional useful tidbit. For instance, Raul is mistaken. Coney (rabbit) isn’t marbled. In the wild, rabbits have so little body fat that one can die from eating them without a supplemental source of fat like pecans or pine nuts or beans. But Opossum and squirrel are fine, day-to-day.
You wanted to know that didn’t you?
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Infidel says:
It musta been how it was cooked- my mother would never lead me astray regarding a rabbit sandwhich. ah! In the wild you said, cause I’ve seen some pretty frickn’ fat rabbits!
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Paul Tergeist says:
my mother would never lead me astray regarding a rabbit sandwhich. ah! In the wild you said, cause I’ve seen some pretty frickn’ fat rabbits!
-MandosI’m sure your mother is quite honest concerning all things rabbit. With home-fattened rabbits, you can simply slit the pelt and pull out all the fat in a lump or two. It isn’t marbled into their musculature. I recommend having a vet anesthetize the rabbit first or it will bite you when you begin hacking at it with your knife.
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Paul Tergeist says:
I’m not going to say where i grew up.
-hendersonHenderson, where did you grow up?
