Me and Baruch and a box of Kleenex

By · Friday, March 31st, 2006 · 35 Comments »

Unlike yesterday, I am now several tads under the weather. I’m going to mainline some coffee here and bumble around online for a few hours (some people call this “working”). Then, since I’ve been reminded that I still owe Part 3 of Religions Evolve, I’ll probably spend the rest of the day in bed with Baruch Halpern to get in the mood.

The Duke lacrosse team gang rape story is all over the feminist blogosphere, but I especially recommend the coverage from Txfeminist at Red State Feminist. Tx has several interesting takes on this, including her undercover foray to a lacrosse discussion board where the guys’ main concern is with how this is going to affect the sport. Their attitude towards the victims is basically, “why are people so quick to believe a couple of no-good bitches whores exotic dancers who are probably lying?” Real inspirational reading there.

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35 Responses to “Me and Baruch and a box of Kleenex”

  1. Txfeminist says:

    Hey Violet! Feel better, my friend.

    It’s great fun down in the pit over at the Lacrosse Forum. This Texas Tomboy’s on it!

    Seriously, they aren’t taking the bait- much. Hopefully, the scolding voice of their collective mothers is echoing in their burning ears about now.

  2. Pastor Pistle says:

    Dr. Socks, please take my advice about hot tea. You probably have nothing more serious that H5N1 or Ebola Zaire, but stay inside just in case.

    txfem: I am from San Antonio, the heart of the Great Republic of Texas. We were raised to be gentlemen in my part of town and gentlemen do not condone either rape or lacrosse. Those boys need to be strung up, not scolded by their mothers.

  3. Violet says:

    Thank you both. Pastor, I take comfort from the knowledge that whatever ails me was no doubt created by one of those demons/bad angels that Intelligent Design has identified. Every time I blow my nose, I’m expelling Satan’s handiwork.

    Tx, those boys on the forum are absolutely shameless. It’s so clear that women to them aren’t human beings, just entertainment devices.

    (off-topic to Tx: I love your new picture. You’re purty!)

  4. will says:

    purty? She is hawt!

  5. Txfeminist says:

    *blush*! Will says I am really old and really hairy. Well, that is true. I am.

    I was tryin’ to illustrate for some of my readers my resemblance to Jill Carroll, with whom I may have been separated at birth. (Except that she’s like ten years younger than me.)

    A Demon-cold, now that’s the worst kind. You need a hot-toddie!

  6. Txfeminist says:

    Will, we cross-posted!

  7. will says:

    of course, I meant hot for a mean, hairy, old lady.

  8. Txfeminist says:

    Well, okay then… I’m glad we got that settled.

  9. Violet says:

    You do look like Jill Carroll, Tx. I thought that as soon as I saw your picture.

    Will, thank you so much for your kind good wishes for my health. I’m impressed that you were caring enough to say something. See, I would have thought you’d be the kind of guy who would just use the thread to flirt with Tx and completely ignore the fact that your Blog Host is sick. I was so wrong!

  10. will says:

    Playing outside because the weather is so beautiful makes you normal, not sick. You need accept the fact that breaks from work are healthy. Don’t make yourself such a slave to work.

  11. Vinnie Vespisti says:

    Vinnie just read the Red State Feminist Blog. It reminded him of something and sure enough, he found it. Vinnie has to back out of ‘feminism’ forums because you stuck-up liberal women care nothing at all for the REALLY bad conditions for females in much of the rest of the world and just sit around spouting platitudes. In fact, it it were not so fucking pitiful, Vinnie would have to laugh that txfem sounds EXACTLY LIKE THIS:

    Politically Correct Little Red Riding Hood

  12. Violet says:

    Since that story is all over the internet, I replaced it with a link.

  13. gordo says:

    Violent–

    You do look a bit down today. You seem to have the “panda eyes.” I must say, I like your practice of posting a new picture of yourself everyday, to give us some idea of how you might be feeling.

    I’m definitely looking forward to part 3 of your evolving religion series.

  14. CR says:

    Violet, I hope you begin to feel better in a few days. I hope it’s going to one of those short lived colds instead of those long drag out kinds. Sorry you are feeling lousy.

    TX feminist is very pretty.

    Haven’t read the blogs about the rape and don’t know what happened. Will have to wait to till the whole story gets cleared up.

    I did want to say something about that though. I do not know why this is but I noticed that when males get together they sometimes influence each other to be their worst selves instead of their best. A strange kind of thing happens to them and they do things they would never do when they are by themselves. I’m not just talking about rape- I’m talking in general and it’s only sometimes. But the consequences can be pretty awful from this phenomenon.

    Charles Lindburg’s father told him someting that he always kept to heart all his days. He told him (paraphrasing don’t remember the exact quote) “One man has a mind of his own – two men have half a mind and three men together have no mind at all.”

    It’s an odd thing and I have no idea how or why this happens. I don’t want to pick on men only becuase women can also get caught up in such things as well. Only they don’t seem to as much. I am picking on the guys a little becuase it seems so much more obvious in them and more dangerous or destructive. I think this sort of behaviour is responsible for all sorts of things like- mob violence, gang rape, hazing rituals, cat calling, and other negative activities.

  15. CR says:

    Gordo,
    Where can I Violets photo?

  16. CR says:

    I meant to ask, Where can I find Violets photo?

  17. Pastor Pistle says:

    I’ll sell you a picture of Dr. Socks but, in the meantime, here is a picture of me. It’s a bit dated.

    http://i5.photobucket.com/albu.....dergod.jpg

  18. CR says:

    Very handsome. I think Gordo was kidding maybe? That photo in the above corner of an old time actress? Is that Theda Bera?

  19. CR says:

    Okay, is that Violet?

    Fearlessly dumb question. And you are a monkey Pastor Pistle. :-))

  20. Pastor Pistle says:

    to 14: You don’t want to pick on men? What was the point of that post if not to insinuate that anytime three males get together they are potential rapists?

    Following your train of thought as it frees women from opression, the only logical thing to do is pass a law requiring that all women wear bhurkas (snowsuits aren’t effective…sorry, Socks)so as not to tempt males into their natural state of of aggression, conquest and rapine.

    The LORD givith and The LORD taketh away, not you knife-wielding vampires like that Snippit woman who cut off her husband’s choo-choo and threw it into the bushes like a burnt wiener being tossed off the grille at a Sunday prayer meeting!

    I must, as a TRUE CHRISTIAN(TM), urge you to study the Bible a little more closely or I will have to report you to Maya Emmett for further action.

  21. CR says:

    I didn’t say that three men together are potential rapists. I was repeating what the father Charles lindburg the famous aviator said. The word or even the thought of rape did not enter into it.
    the resto of it I am not worldly enough to know your references. Don’t know who Maya Emmett is. As for Burkas or abayas. You are a silly goose, Pastor Pistle.

  22. CR says:

    As far as my picking on men. I was hoping that one of the inteelectuals in here could help me to understand the behaviour. Not entirely male- but most acutely obvoius in them than in woman. Mayube you can help me with the understading of what happens when males get together and start acting nutty. Can you help me Pator Pistle? Or are you just a goof to the end?

  23. Pastor Pistle says:

    CR, you seem a dear heart. I like you, so I shall leave your question to someone more experienced than myself. Personally, I have never raped anyone, nor had the urge to do so, nor noticed aberrant tendencies surface when groups of testosterone-laden men form, except in The Nam when we followed orders to race up the same hill every day in the face of withering fire just to withdraw at dusk and medevac our wounded and do it again the next day. There was no purpose, and the hill meant nothing. It puzzles me still, but we were Marines and Marines do that sort of thing.

    In my day the guys enjoyed camping and fishing. I dunno what it is nowdays. Surely the end-times are upon us.

  24. CR says:

    Semper Fi! Are non Marines allowed to say that too? If not – I meant no disrespect. Contrary. Much respect. My Dad always said never let a soldier buy his own drinks or his own dinner. Always pick up his tab out of respect. I know this isnt the place for such things.

    I never ever meant what you thought. and I know you know the kinds of mysterious group behavoiur I was refering to. It happens so much. There is a name for it in physchology and some educated people study it all their lives in an effort to understand it. but I don’t even know what it’s called to look it up on the internet.

    Best wishes, Pastor. You’re a champ. And I know you’re very clever because of the way you write.

  25. Pastor Pistle says:

    Yes Ma’am, you may say “Semper Fidelis”. It is a beautiful and mellifluous phrase and stands tall with a foundation consisting of over two hundred years of American pride and patriotism. I will never see America great again in my lifetime, but I saw it at it’s peak and I can take that with me. May father served in both WW1 AND WW2 as an American Army officer and I volunteered as well. My father and yours were great men.

    I am a mere pastor, but maybe an introduction to the things you are talking about could be found online somewhere. http://allpsych.com/psychology101/groups.html

  26. CR says:

    Thank you so much Pastor!!!! I feel like I want to cry. It is more helpful than I can say.

  27. Pastor Pistle says:

    Please don’t cry, Ma’am. Just remember that GOD loves you and is sending His only begotten Son back to Earth to kill everyone in the battle of Armageddon which is already being immortalized by Mel Gibson is a movie called “JESUS 2: nail THIS up!”

  28. Jim Deeny says:

    Pastor Pistle-

    (warning, I’ve had a few beverages)

    I like you for some reason. I honestly do, because you are so passionate for Jesus. That in itself I find admirable because I don’t stand for anything.
    I’ve never found my niche’ yet at a ripe 38 years.
    I wish I could be passionate like you are with Jesus just as much anything else. It’s not that I don’t believe in Jesus, but the amount of energy you put into him is fascinating to me. Where does it come from? The mustering of the energy? Is it the belief that there’s a means to an end? I need to throw another shot of whiskey back.

  29. Pastor Pistle says:

    Deeny, I suspect that you are a closet commie, or worse. The Department of Faith is watching your every move and you will be tossed into an undisclosed location as soon as you pull anything suspicious!

    Son, when I was 38 I was still preaching to the unsaved Africans. Of course, being darkies, they can’t be saved, but we convinced a lot of the rich ones to give us their life savings before they were deposed and sentenced to death because JESUS needs the cash to provide me with a mansion and a limo for all my Good Works.

    I see you are a lost soul. I think you should get right with GOD and He will give your life direction. Just drop in to landoverbaptist.net and send your disposable income to us via the PayPal button at the bottom. You can see what happened to Dr. Socks when her title was late. Demons are up her nose and will probably be in her colon by tomorrow. You don’t want that to happen to you do you? Of course not!

    I was called to the pulpit early! Even earlier than Marjoe Gortner or Boy George. And I am not one of those phony TV evangelists like Jan Crouch, Tammy Faye Bakker or Condoleezza Rice. No sir, I am the real deal. Now don’t get me started son, because I tend to prostelytize until I get my point across about JESUS and some people need to hear it more than others. You are an empty vessel just WAITING for the love of JESUS to fill you up. I know you may have heard that phrase as a Catholic altar boy, but this is something completely different.

    Study the Bible and you can be SAVED(TM).

    I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men.–Rev.19:17-18

  30. cicely says:

    Dr Socks, I wish you a speedy recovery from what ails you – and CR I have something disturbing to report to you in response to this:

    I did want to say something about that though. I do not know why this is but I noticed that when males get together they sometimes influence each other to be their worst selves instead of their best. A strange kind of thing happens to them and they do things they would never do when they are by themselves. I’m not just talking about rape- I’m talking in general and it’s only sometimes. But the consequences can be pretty awful from this phenomenon.

    Seriously, I was watching a British doco on tv just the other night, about ‘the mind of a suicide bomber’. After genuine scientific study, some qualified person whose name I can’t recall has come up with – wait for it – the ‘bunch of guys’ theory. Yes, it’s actually called that. The London bombers, for example, got ‘radicalised’ together as a group of friends, without first having been indoctrinated at any mosque or whatever, and the pattern has been followed with Al Qaida (spelling?) cells in the States. The scientist had a chart like Alice’s on The L word where she notes whose slept with who (I think the character is called Alice…) The scientist studied guys movements, where they met, whether they shared accomodation etc. The cells apparently form ‘spontaneously’, and then they approach organised terrorist groups and beg to be allowed to be among the only 20% of ‘applicants’ who are accepted. Scary stuff.

  31. Violet says:

    CR and Cicely, thank you for your good wishes.

    I apologize for my earlier intemperate outburst. I am crabby when sick. My sinuses and entire surrounding area (i.e., my head) are inhabited by a DEMON, for which I blame the Pastor. The exorcism didn’t work, the burp was just a burp, and the demon obviously just lay low for few days while scoping out possibilities for further mischief.

    However, the Pastor has been very nice to me with the recommendations of hot tea, whiskey, and prayer, so I think that evens it out.

  32. txfeminist says:

    Vinnie, you say that like it’s a bad thing…..

  33. CR says:

    Cicely,
    I can’t tell if you are kidding with me or not. it’s April Fools Day and there are alot of Satirists on this board.

    but I’m going to imagine that you are talking with me seriously. I thank you for posting on this and find it fascinating and very helpful. I am going to pay more attension to this phenomenon- as I ask myself what causes some seemingly incomprehensible behaviours among people.

  34. cicely says:

    Cicely,
    I can’t tell if you are kidding with me or not. it’s April Fools Day and there are alot of Satirists on this board.

    Ah, yes, CR – that’s a double whammy and you’ve done me the favour of reminding me that it was April Fools day yesterday. That expalins a few things… Also I’m glad you checked – others may have wondered the same. (I like that saying ‘the only stupid question is the one that was never asked’.) However – I was not kidding with you, unfortunately. The UK documentary was called ‘Suicide Bombers: A Psychological Investigation’.

    You’ve no doubt heard that some of the apparently religiously motivated terrorists previously enjoyed frequenting bars and brothels, and one guy involved in 9/11, or at least who knew about it, actually told some details of the plan to a prostitute who was concerned enough to report what he’d told her to the FBI. This led to her being forced to co-operate in a crackdown on prostitutes, but nothing prevented 9/11. Did anyone else ever hear about this? I can dig out my reference on request because I printed it off the net sometime last year. Is it true? Who knows. But it is true that not all the terrorists have lived their young adult lives according to any scriptures.

  35. cicely says:

    - explains – a few things, of course.